Crop Circles - Crossover...

[G2V 12]

[quote=dr wu23;44213]Why hasn't one major university or science group....not one, ever verified or confirmed the ' data' that BLT has come up with and then published it?
Has anyone ever been seen even going out to study them except for BLT and thier associates? Why not?
I mean if this is aliens or some other unknown intellgence this is award winning world shattering news. Where are all the real scientists.?
They should be all over this like flies on horse manure.

I always find it amazing that you read so much negativism into some of the most interesting things happening in private scientific studies. Are you being treated for dementia? Not only have you completely over stepped the crux of my statement about the BLT organization, but I have no doubt that you've never even researched this organization or have spoken to any of it's founding members.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by GunnerGraham

Because most universities and study groups,as you well know dr,rely on government grants.One must be careful not to upset the applecart.Thoughts not meeting the governments policy advisors thoughts,could possibly lead to loss of grants,departments closing down etc etc.

That's one of the excuses always trotted out but I don't buy it that all scientists would be scared away.
At least one or two groups would buck the status quo but yet we have none.

[dr wu23]

[quote='G2V.[12];44513']

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Why hasn't one major university or science group....not one, ever verified or confirmed the ' data' that BLT has come up with and then published it?
Has anyone ever been seen even going out to study them except for BLT and thier associates? Why not?
I mean if this is aliens or some other unknown intellgence this is award winning world shattering news. Where are all the real scientists.?
They should be all over this like flies on horse manure.

I always find it amazing that you read so much negativism into some of the most interesting things happening in private scientific studies. Are you being treated for dementia? Not only have you completely over stepped the crux of my statement about the BLT organization, but I have no doubt that you've never even researched this organization or have spoken to any of it's founding members.

Is the derogatory remark necessary..? Should I call you a jerk or moron for saying what you did? There....I feel better now.
It's not negativism....it's called questioning. Are you so trusting that you just accept these 'private studies'? Have you personally met these people and gone over their studies in detail? Has anyone confimed them? ..if not, why not..?
I first read about BLT at least 5-6 years ago and I have looked at this material many times in the past on their web site and others ,and I have said before that some of the anomalies are interesting but that no other scientific groups have seemingly verified them nor does any of that even mean they are from space aliens.

[dejarma]

I remember way back in the 70’s a farmer reporting to the news papers that a circle had been crushed in his field. “HE� the farmer himself suggested it could be that a flying saucer landed & created this circle. From there it has snow-balled into what it is today; just from this one story. This is what started it all!!….
If this was some form of communication from an unknown intelligent force then what the hell is the point of “a circle�??? If there is supposed to be some kind of code they want to give us then why didn’t they start with something like the milk hill type designs?? Could it be these unknown highly sophisticated/ soulful (well, many assume this) forces needed time to practice hence why they’ve <gradually> become more intricate over the years?? Hmmm, seems very human to me……

[G2V 12]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

That's one of the excuses always trotted out but I don't buy it that all scientists would be scared away.
At least one or two groups would buck the status quo but yet we have none.

That's what BLT does. Anyone who is smart enough to sign into this forum can visit their site and see the analysis.

[G2V 12]

It's not negativism....it's called questioning. Are you so trusting that you just accept these 'private studies'? Have you personally met these people and gone over their studies in detail? Has anyone confimed them? ..if not, why not..?
I first read about BLT at least 5-6 years ago and I have looked at this material many times in the past on their web site and others ,and I have said before that some of the anomalies are interesting but that no other scientific groups have seemingly verified them nor does any of that even mean they are from space aliens.[/quote]

First of all BLT doesn't take the position that space aliens make crop circles. They don't have an official statement about who or what makes them. They publish the analysis done by private labs not connected with them. And yes, I've had chats with one of it's founders. She has spent a fortune traveling around the world for the past 30 years to document crop circles and collect samples. Just for your information, BLT has two other organizations test their work to be sure that the results are the same.

And you are negative. Your questioning goes way beyond what I would consider normal. There's a difference between being scientifically investigative and totally fanatical about anything that doesn't fit into your personal world view. You're obsessed with some dimensional concept that is one of many and you can't even comply with a simple request to define it when someone asks you to. You are one of the most closed minded individuals I've ever met in the forums. Then I find you criticizing this forum at Department 47, which is a paranormal forum. And you are telling me that you never connect the paranormal with science? That is the biggest crock of crap you've ever told us.

You throw tantrums of opposition when people post things you consider wrong. If you take your opinions that seriously, maybe you should write a book. Might be a great way to decompress your mentality. It might keep you from having a frontal lobotomy.

[Carol Nistri]

G2V,are you referring to Nancy Talbot perhaps?

Dr.Wu remember when Discovery did that special with Nancy Talbot and the students from MIT? She had the students make a crop circle on a farmers field remember,I do believe that at the end of that documentary she was satisfied with the circle and that even someone like these MIT students could make one to her satisfaction,and they did.Of course they did set off a small cannon to scatter the iron filings and a helicopter did nearly crash flying over it,all that was then shown to the public,why if Nancy Talbot was ET oriented would she show a documentary that obviously favors humans over aliens? I thought this was a fair demonstration on BTLs part that some crop circles could be manmade.Shrugs,dunno but I wouldnt have said that Nancy Talbot had her mind made up one way or another.

[GunnerGraham]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

That's one of the excuses always trotted out but I don't buy it that all scientists would be scared away.
At least one or two groups would buck the status quo but yet we have none.

I'd have to agree with you partly,the university funded scientists would go with the flow.
Then we have the scientists working for the military,or some huge company,wanting any ET knowledge for weapons,or medical research etc.

Jeez,sometimes I think if we all got our heads together,we could write a blockbuster,with all our supposes !! lol.

[Carol Nistri]

Yeaaa Gunner! Way to go,I dont have the intelligence to write a movie but Im never short of ideas,what a great way to spend the winter,putting a movie together,then we send Dee into the producers office and the rest is history,right Dee?

[GunnerGraham]

Carol,I think I love you, girl !!

Thanks for your supporting comment