Betty Hill's Star Map

[Carol Nistri]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Suppose you are in town and come up to me asking for directions to some store in town. If I draw you a map, it will be a sketch. It most likely will not be to scale. Typically, it will instruct you where to make turns and may provide distance estimates in either blocks, cross streets or actual miles. And years from now, after finding this old sketched map in one of your old coats, you will probably find that it would look similar to something found in another town altogether. And if you could not remember which town it was for, it would prove useless to you.

So what is my point? Map diagrams are not scalable maps. Much information needed to follow said diagrams is referenced to landmarks such as traffic lights, cross roads, train tracks, etc. If Betty Hill was shown a diagram that relates a traffic route that includes some alien star system and our star system, the reference points need to be known in order to be useful. It is doubtful that said diagram would be drawn to scale or that alien reference points would have any meaning to us. Surely their names for things would be different from ours, and extraneous stars would not be depicted for diagram simplification.

So here is where we are on the Betty Hill map:
1) Did she see such a diagram? She claims to have, and claims that the aliens told her what it symbolized. We weren't there and have no way to correlate it to anything we are familiar with.
2) If she saw it as claimed, did she remember it correctly? We don't know. We weren't there. It wouldn't matter; it would be useless for us to use unless the landmark stars of the diagram were stated in terms with which we are familiar. They were not.
3) Is her remembered star map evidence of her encounter? Only to her. If someday we become acquainted with these aliens that Betty Hill encountered, and if we are shown the same diagram illustrating the travel route between their star system and ours, we might then conclude that Betty Hill did provide evidence of her encounter. Until then, however, we simply don't know what to make of it.

Im betting that Betty Hill drew that map as accurately as possible,she drew the map counting on her memory of what that alien showed her,Ill bet until the very day she died she remember that map as clearly as if it were yesterday she was shown it,you dont forget,you cant forget anything that is profound.

[Martin]

The 3D Map that someon made about Betty Hills Star Map was very intresting. It seemed to match up with known stars.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Martin

The 3D Map that someon made about Betty Hills Star Map was very intresting. It seemed to match up with known stars.

The problem is that space is so large with so many stars that drawing any patten by accident will 'match' with stars somewhere in the galaxy as long as one is not too fussy about the distances and angles.

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

The problem is that space is so large with so many stars that drawing any patten by accident will 'match' with stars somewhere in the galaxy as long as one is not too fussy about the distances and angles.

Agreed, but then this argument does nothing to discredit Betty Hill's revelation of a star diagram relating the alien route to Earth, does it?

[dejarma]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Agreed, but then this argument does nothing to discredit Betty Hill's revelation of a star diagram relating the alien route to Earth, does it?

what would be the point of alien beings giving someone like betty hill a star map?

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Agreed, but then this argument does nothing to discredit Betty Hill's revelation of a star diagram relating the alien route to Earth, does it?

Then you would accept my drawing as real also..?

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Then you would accept my drawing as real also..?

Sure, once you have been abducted by aliens and recount your experiences via hypnotic regression by an experienced hypno therapist, complete with co victim or other witness.

[dejarma]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Sure, once you have been abducted by aliens and recount your experiences via hypnotic regression by an experienced hypno therapist, complete with co victim or other witness.

You have to believe what you're told in a book or a TV documentary first!! Which of course is the big difference between skeptics & believers! If someone like Stan Friedman for example one day suggested ants are undercover alien spies (with no proof of course) I bet there will be 'some' that will actually consider the possibility or even blindly believe it>>> cuz Stan said so

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Sure, once you have been abducted by aliens and recount your experiences via hypnotic regression by an experienced hypno therapist, complete with co victim or other witness.

So then that would make you a believer..?



ps: when and if the aliens take me and show me a star map....I'll post it for you.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by dejarma

You have to believe what you're told in a book or a TV documentary first!! Which of course is the big difference between skeptics & believers! If someone like Stan Friedman for example one day suggested ants are undercover alien spies (with no proof of course) I bet there will be 'some' that will actually consider the possibility or even blindly believe it>>> cuz Stan said so

Are you saying that Darrell is a believer?
He adamantly claims to be neutral.