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Old 30th December 2012   #1
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Hello. Im new to this forum got here thanks to RealUfos.net.

I have always been looking up to the skies to finally bring peace to what i would say to be the greatest mystery of mankind. I do believe that Aliens altered our DNA to give us that brain-big-bang scientists are talking about.
And i also believe in the Ancient Alien theory, it brings up so much that makes so much sense in our history.
But to the point.
I have some memories that i would really like to bring up with people, my girlfriend is a help but i would like to get some other ideas what has happened to me in the past.

There's 2 events that occured.
First one happened when i was 4 years old in Stockholm. My family lived in an appartmentbuilding at the 3-5th floor. It was pretty high up from what i can recall, definetly not on ground level.
I woke up one night and i saw 3 figures at 2m away, two short ones, maybe 1-1.2m (about 4-5feet) and a taller one in the middle that was about 1.7m (7 feet?)
The room was very dark but i had a window at the direction as they were standing so i could see their shapes and even some reflecting light on their faces. This memory is so clear so its almost as it happened yesterday. I was terrified of course so i hid under my blanket and got paralyzed by fear so i couldnt yell for my mom either. After about 10 seconds i wake up and its morning and the sun is shining in. I didnt know what to believe. The most interesting thing about all of this is the memory i have of the shapes and face is almost identical to the image of a grey alien, but the one to the left had hair on him/her head aswell.

Second event happened when i was 13, this one isn't horrible at all just very strange.
Our family had moved from Stockholm because my father died when i was 2 years old and my mom had found a new love in her life. we moved to a town 25 metric miles away called Leksand. And i was living in the basement and had a small window so i could see up to groundlevel. One night i was trying but couldnt, i was wide awake and was thinking about all random things guys do at that age (Girls). When i suddenly hear a tiny sound not normal just outside my window so i was lying in bed looking up towards the window. Couldnt see anything because it was 2am in the night and pitchdark. But just as i blinked it was day again and i remember that i still was looking at that same window, same things going on inside my mind at that point and i frooze sudden and thought to myself -What the hell just happened here?

So there's my stories, is there anything alien related about this or is it just mindtricks on me?

Im 26 now but the memories are so clear and when i think about that time when i was 4 i still shiver.

I haven't had any hallucinations after or prior to that. I dont have a medical condition. I was strickly forbidden to see any films that would give me nightmares.

Sorry for the long Post, and improper grammar

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Hello. Im new to this forum got here thanks to RealUfos.net.

I have always been looking up to the skies to finally bring peace to what i would say to be the greatest mystery of mankind. I do believe that Aliens altered our DNA to give us that brain-big-bang scientists are talking about.
And i also believe in the Ancient Alien theory, it brings up so much that makes so much sense in our history.
But to the point.
I have some memories that i would really like to bring up with people, my girlfriend is a help but i would like to get some other ideas what has happened to me in the past.

There's 2 events that occured.
First one happened when i was 4 years old in Stockholm. My family lived in an appartmentbuilding at the 3-5th floor. It was pretty high up from what i can recall, definetly not on ground level.
I woke up one night and i saw 3 figures at 2m away, two short ones, maybe 1-1.2m (about 4-5feet) and a taller one in the middle that was about 1.7m (7 feet?)
The room was very dark but i had a window at the direction as they were standing so i could see their shapes and even some reflecting light on their faces. This memory is so clear so its almost as it happened yesterday. I was terrified of course so i hid under my blanket and got paralyzed by fear so i couldnt yell for my mom either. After about 10 seconds i wake up and its morning and the sun is shining in. I didnt know what to believe. The most interesting thing about all of this is the memory i have of the shapes and face is almost identical to the image of a grey alien, but the one to the left had hair on him/her head aswell.

Second event happened when i was 13, this one isn't horrible at all just very strange.
Our family had moved from Stockholm because my father died when i was 2 years old and my mom had found a new love in her life. we moved to a town 25 metric miles away called Leksand. And i was living in the basement and had a small window so i could see up to groundlevel. One night i was trying but couldnt, i was wide awake and was thinking about all random things guys do at that age (Girls). When i suddenly hear a tiny sound not normal just outside my window so i was lying in bed looking up towards the window. Couldnt see anything because it was 2am in the night and pitchdark. But just as i blinked it was day again and i remember that i still was looking at that same window, same things going on inside my mind at that point and i frooze sudden and thought to myself -What the hell just happened here?

So there's my stories, is there anything alien related about this or is it just mindtricks on me?

Im 26 now but the memories are so clear and when i think about that time when i was 4 i still shiver.

I haven't had any hallucinations after or prior to that. I dont have a medical condition. I was strickly forbidden to see any films that would give me nightmares.

Sorry for the long Post, and improper grammar

Mathias
First ..welcome to the board.
Second I don't believe the alien genetic manipulation nor ancient alien beliefs. I suppose anything is possible but the evidence just isn't there.
btw we had a long discussion about that here on the board about a year ago.

As to your experience, who knows what it was? Some will say aliens, others demons, and others that you had a lucid dream / nightmare.
But I have always had a problem with the space aliens in the bedroom scenario for many reasons but the main one is that why do this so many times with so many people? Based on the numerous reports the aliens must be making the rounds like Santa every night.

If they are truly advanced then they would not need to do this very often to get human genetic info or material. They could simply rob a blood bank if dna is what they want. In other words there are far better ways to survey human genetic material and do a scientfic study than the way these aliens are doing it. As some ufologists have said they seem like bad scientists...or is that mad scientists?
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Hi, Mattelux! Welcome. Those are very interesting, and you did a great job telling of these incidents. You should post them to MUFON, and also on

National UFO Reporting Center

This is the only way for other people to be able to compare their experiences, to read about yours.

I hope you continue to post, and continue to look for answers that will help resolve these mysterious events.
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Thanks for the replies. I will look up similar abduction cases and see if there's something similar there. I personally hope that its just some very vivid dream i've been having. And since i was just 4 years old when the worst thing happened it might have been something like that.(One hell of a nightmare if i still remember it eh?)
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Thanks for the replies. I will look up similar abduction cases and see if there's something similar there. I personally hope that its just some very vivid dream i've been having. And since i was just 4 years old when the worst thing happened it might have been something like that.(One hell of a nightmare if i still remember it eh?)
As was suggested above reading the various points of view is the place to start....but to be fair, since it was brought up above, there are also many who have fallen down the rabbit hole of ET belief and are no longer objective.
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yet, what does the word "reality" mean if one can't believe one's senses?
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Hi Mattelux, thanks for sharing your story. Your experiences imo appear to be either dreams of aliens or (partial?) memories of an alien visit/abduction event. How do you sleep at night? Any worries or night fears?


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yet, what does the word "reality" mean if one can't believe one's senses?
Good question...and the insane asylums ( as well as everyday people out there) are full of people who have a problem with reality.
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Back in older times, witness reports by two independant observers (who were considered credible) were considered true if in agreement. Nowdays, skeptics find ways to discount just about everything concering UFOs or aliens by arguing that there are lots of other possible explanations/interpretations besides those reported by credible witnesses.

Personally, I have to wonder if our open-mindedness (as a society) has actually progressed or regressed. This thread is perhaps not a great example because we know basically nothing about the thread originator -- just his story. But what if we did know this individual and considered him credible? Would one (who considers oneself unbiased) relegate his story to the trash bin for lack of other witnesses or any tangible evidence; and would we try to invent counter explanations for his "experience?" Or might we take the view that the story might be valid as reported and file it as possible, but lacking confirmation? Sadly, I feel that most who label themselves as "skeptics" would do the former.

Yes it is true that the insane asylums are filled with people who experience a different reality than most of us; but, that does nothing to change the fact that each of us (if considred credible by most others) interprets our reality in accordance with what our senses tell us. Given that, how can we legitimately pooh-pooh what other witnesses report in accordance with their senses without proof that they are non-credible?

I recall that on this board a witness reporting her story publically was severely attacked by "skeptics" such that she erased her posts and left with feathers ruffled. I hope that we have learned from that. Something to think about.

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Hi Mattelux, thanks for sharing your story. Your experiences imo appear to be either dreams of aliens or (partial?) memories of an alien visit/abduction event. How do you sleep at night? Any worries or night fears?


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about 1 week a month i have trouble sleeping, other than that i sleep like a log. Rarely i wake up in the middle of the night and feel very uncomfortable, but thats rare. It was many years ago since i had my last sleep paralysis.


About the credibility i can understand that its hard to believe and i feel the same about alot of the reported abduction cases. especially the ones that were somewhat like my experience. And i can't really write something that will help my case here neither.
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