Grey Aliens & Harvesting of Souls

[Miss Deetective]

How are they going to snatch a soul?? What would they put it in...a jar...a test tube...a basket??? Or do they just suck it right out of us and into themselves???
How would that affect us afterwards??? Will we turn into evil demonic beings???
The whole idea seems silly no matter how you try to explain it, imo.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Miss Deetective

How are they going to snatch a soul?? What would they put it in...a jar...a test tube...a basket??? Or do they just suck it right out of us and into themselves???
How would that affect us afterwards??? Will we turn into evil demonic beings???
The whole idea seems silly no matter how you try to explain it, imo.

I have to agree with you in asking how would an alien race or any sentient being for that matter literally 'harvest' a soul?
It sounds......ridiculous on any level , but some one like Kerner who is an esoteric theist has created his own science meets religious hypothesis-
very intricate but a little hard to follow.

[halo13del]

Richard Dawkins on Crutches!!! Are we going down this dusty road again? This is a bunch of quasi-religious rubbish like Raëlianism and Scientology. Why would they want to steal our souls anyway? . . . To take tens of thousands of religious denominations back to "Greyland" so they can start their own wars over silly religious dogma?

Mumbo jumbo.

[RyanB]

Before anyone makes up their minds about the soul-harvesting idea have a read of this article by Nigel Kerner from New Dawn Magazine.

http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/artic...e-sim-card-man

It's highly plausible in my view. Also, in one of his interviews he says the soul harvesting idea in the title of the book was not his choice but that of his publisher and that it can be misleading.

[halo13del]

That was a very interesting article. Thanks Ryan. Will we lose our humanity through transhumanism? I'm not really sure we have fully gained our humanity yet. Wars are planned over meals of steak and wine. Suffering exists in a world where a modest 1% hold 95% of the wealth and counting and some still have the ethics of Saddam Hussein himself.

Are the 'Greys', if they exist, here to make sure that the evolution of consciousness doesn't just go to the haves and not the have-nots? Or are we just a breeding program? It's a comforting thought to think they are here to level the playing field, to give all a fair shake, cause some people are Bernie Madoffs and some are Angelina Jolies. Some people have the capacity of compassion and selflessness and some are just ego-centric wealth builders.

As far as the Euro-caucasoid race theory, I guess Ray Kurzweil is from the right race for eternal life considering he is one of 'God's Chosen People'. Are rich Jews gonna be the only transhumanists?

I can't believe I just said that.

[halo13del]

I'll say one thing, Kurzweil is optimistic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_kurzweil

Kurzweil is on the Army Science Advisory Board, has testified before Congress on the subject of nanotechnology, and sees considerable potential in the science to solve significant global problems such as poverty, disease, and climate change, viz. Nanotech Could Give Global Warming a Big Chill (July, 2006).[48]

He predicts nanobots will be used to maintain the human body and to extend the human lifespan.[3][49]

Kurzweil has stressed the extreme potential dangers of nanotechnology,[3] but argues that in practice, progress cannot be stopped, and any attempt to do so will retard the progress of defensive and beneficial technologies more than the malevolent ones, increasing the danger. He says that the proper place of regulation is to make sure progress proceeds safely and quickly. He applies this reasoning to biotechnology, artificial intelligence, and technology in general.[citation needed]

[dr wu23]

I don't disagree with much of the basic philosphy in the article in the sense that technology could be our undoing if we let it. We have to be vigilant and not let that happen. We need to use technology and science and not let it use us.
As to Kerner's idea that ancient AI greys from somewhere else in the Universe are trying to become like us in some bizarre techno spiritual sense by 'stealing souls' seems to me to be as wild an idea as the idea that greys, etc are demons from old human supernatural belief systems. He has placed it in more of a tech box but it still sounds to me it like an alternate religious explanation for the 'evil' grey abduction phenom.
He does not address the other parts of the ufo enigma concerning other alien types and 'craft' seen. Does he think that is not real or that the 'other aliens' are not to be be bothered with?

He mentioned that Redfern claimed he has been told from within some 'govt' circles that some believe in Kerner's idea of soul stealing aliens.
Do they believe this based on Kerner's ideas or do they know something we don't.?
I would like Redfern to publically say that or has he said so in one of his books?
Again we see very bizarre quasi -religious positions coming forward but with what exactly to back them up?

[halo13del]

It's way far out, lacking in any scientific merit, but FAR OUT. Modern Folklore.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by halo13del

It's way far out, lacking in any scientific merit, but FAR OUT. Modern Folklore.

I think that's right. This whole bizarre area involving these strange ufo tales of grey abductions is turning into 'modern folkore'.
Some want to attribute it to ET, some to ED, some to people's imaginations and others to the devil.
IMO no one knows what they are talking about.

[halo13del]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

IMO no one knows what they are talking about.

I know I don't!

If I did I wouldn't be searching this site for a morsel of a clue trying to find out.