Life From Alien Zombies?

[Alien Guy]

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...cropanspermia/

I never thought about this. Interesting read.

[Alien Guy]

Oh. Mercury posted something like this already that didn't show up in my search. Sorry.

[Elara]

could not pass up bumping this old thread, AG

from the article:

Life on Earth could have grown from the broken remains of alien viruses that, although dead, still contained enough information to give rise to new life.

Scientists have speculated that life could have come to Earth from space — a notion called panspermia — since the 1870s, when Lord Kelvin suggested microbes could have ridden here on a comet or meteor. Others have suggested tiny organisms could cross the galaxy embedded in dust grains, which could be nudged from one planetary system to another by the slight pressure of stars’ radiation.

However, most astrobiologists think that same radiation spells a death sentence for delicate microbes.

“That essentially kills panspermia in the classical sense,� said astrobiologist Rocco Mancinelli of the SETI Institute in Mountain View, California.

But maybe not, says astronomer Paul Wesson, a visiting researcher at the Herzberg Institute of Astrophysics in Canada. In an upcoming paper in Space Science Reviews, Wesson argues that even if the actual microbes are dead on arrival, the information they carry could allow life to rise from the charred remains, an idea he calls necropanspermia.

I admit, i clicked on the thread because you said zombies... and i loves zombies... but i love this topic!

Panspermia is not a new idea, but who knew it was called panspermia!?! Ok, I challenge you ALL to use the word panspermia in a conversation this week, and you will get extra style points if you happen to mention necropanspermia in the same conversation!! :-lol:-lol:-lol
also..
Wilhelm and I were talking about extraterrestrial life in another thread and this article also pointed out that life would be less likely to survive if it had to travel distances further than within our own solar system, supporting a point he made.



~Elara

[Wilhelm]

According to Wikipedia,

The first known mention of the term was in the writings of the 5th century BC Greek philosopher Anaxagoras

Wikipedia's source is this book:




I've always wondered if the term was inspired by one of the popular Ancient Egyptian creation myths. Here's a cool little thing I found:

http://www.ancientegypt.co.uk/gods/story/main.html

The animations are great, But they leave out a very important point in this part:



Atum didn't just cough and spit out other Gods, he performed auto-fellatio on himself and spit out the "spermia."



unrelated link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hba7hrWkTw


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Here's my reference for the other stuff, by the way:

http://4brightminds.info/creation.htm

However, the site does not explain how they got into his mouth. The story is that Atum used auto-fellatio and ejaculated Shu and Tefnut into his mouth. He then spat them out.

I don't know why Atum ever left the house.

Godlike! (another unrelated link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT9TMMyhCb8)

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Elara

could not pass up bumping this old thread, AG

from the article:


I admit, i clicked on the thread because you said zombies... and i loves zombies... but i love this topic!

Panspermia is not a new idea, but who knew it was called panspermia!?! Ok, I challenge you ALL to use the word panspermia in a conversation this week, and you will get extra style points if you happen to mention necropanspermia in the same conversation!! :-lol:-lol:-lol
also..
Wilhelm and I were talking about extraterrestrial life in another thread and this article also pointed out that life would be less likely to survive if it had to travel distances further than within our own solar system, supporting a point he made.



~Elara

I thought panspermia was a condition where the man's sperm was not viable..?

[Jurgen]

Panspermia or not, there is a place out there where life developed on its own. Probably a planet with a stable system. That leads down to where it always leads down to... how did life came into existance the first time? Panspermia isn't going to provide the awnser to that of course but it is still a plausible theory.

Maybe the building blocks for life are present in everything around us. Also the reason why we might see nothing but humanoid aliens... what are the odds on that? From Greys to Pleiades to Cyclop like beings and what not, but all with two arms and legs. I have a hard time believing everthing intelligent/sentient will have a humanoid form. Even on earth the bipedal creatures are outnumbered by far so where do the smart octopods, hexagonians and quadraponians reside?

If all life in the universe does share a single source, not regarding different circumstances on different planets, it might be possible for sentient life to have the need for a humanoid form? That or maybe because you need arms with hands with apposable thumbs to built a spaceship in the first place...

[Elara]

good point... the ones we see are humanoid... how many do we not notice at'all.. tsk tsk..

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Elara

... the ones we see are humanoid.....

And what's wrong with this picture...?
Why is it that every alien who has allegedly found earth appears to be humanoid and some so much so they look almost exactly like us?
Is that likely in evolution on an alien world?
There is nothing to show that the universe is anthropic in nature...so how do we account for this ..anomaly?

[GunnerGraham]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

And what's wrong with this picture...?
Why is it that every alien who has allegedly found earth appears to be humanoid and some so much so they look almost exactly like us?
Is that likely in evolution on an alien world?
There is nothing to show that the universe is anthropic in nature...so how do we account for this ..anomaly?

There's a school of thought (as well you know) that humankind could have been the result of genetic engineering from et,but of course,if Vallee doesn't concur with this theory,you won't either.
I note you seem to have glossed over the recent post,regaling Vallees' belief in 'nuts and bolts' et craft,lol.....Anomaly.....Solved

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by GunnerGraham

There's a school of thought (as well you know) that humankind could have been the result of genetic engineering from et,but of course,if Vallee doesn't concur with this theory,you won't either.
I note you seem to have glossed over the recent post,regaling Vallees' belief in 'nuts and bolts' et craft,lol.....Anomaly.....Solved

Alien genetic engineering (which is as speculative as anything Vallee has ever said..) would account for one alien group looking like us or I should say us looking like them, but it does not account for all the other humanoid aliens. Unless you think they are all cousins to each other?

We still need to address the aspects of universal evolution and if it would indeed produce that many humanoid species according to some unknown anthropic principle.

For those who are unfamiliar with the ufo literature,...Dr Vallee has said many many times in books, online, and in interviews he does not rule out the possibility of ET travelers (indeed he started with the ETH in 1960), but that he does not believe that accounts for the whole ufo phenom nor for some/most of the so-called high strangeness cases. He is not a 'nuts and bolts' ufologist and has said this in the past. He has jokingly said about the ETH crowd in the past that, "they want to kick the tires of the ufos...".
Does that clear it up for you?