"Then anything is possible when we become that subjecive and no paradigms are any more valid than the next.
We might as well say they are cartoon characters then.
The problem is that some like the ETH crowd 'see' it as aliens for their own reasons and those like myself who lean to alternate ideas 'see' it through other paradigms ,but in the end if we don't use a model to work with/from then it's all just meaningless.
Perhaps the entities are playing this game so we cannot 'grok' who or what they really are?"
if thats so then I have to go back to they are demonic,their not from another planet at all but from another realm right here on earth.Thats scary spit..