The Dangers of Ufology?

[jk1961]

thank you martin

[FROGLIPZ]

Originally Posted by S Changeling

If you want the non-Rense version of the article, and you should, Rense is a horrible site for other reasons, it can be found at: http://www.metatech.org/ufo_research..._evidence.html

The 1997 article doesn't mention the recent cluster of deaths we discussed at Dept 47 awhile back. Perhaps Skep has that old thread archived?

The deaths are intriguing in some cases, quite mundane in others, but I'm not convinced of the government conspiracy accusations involving UFO researcher's deaths. That's part of popular culture but very few deaths due to medical causes are really that mysterious.

I don't believe the government is poisoning or irradiating Ufologists left and right any more than I believe they know the truth about UFO's and are refusing us the holy grail of disclosure.

I do believe the government has used people in MK Ultra experiments that led to LSD induced deaths during the Cold War, just as marching soldiers through radioactive H-Bomb test areas induced cancer years later. The evidence for that is quite available, but a deadly vendetta against Ufologists does not have that level of evidence. Keep in mind that we have reason to be paranoid, but not all paranoia is justified.

We must believe two impossible things if the ETH worldview involving murderous conspiracies is correct. The first is that the extremely powerful aliens (who can walk through walls) are inept enough to crash their saucers but still let us have their crashed saucers after wards. The second is that our government, so inept in nearly every other way, is powerful enough to maintain a decades old conspiracy while copying Murder Inc.

The whole X-Files style alien coverup and invasion just doesn't make sense. The only cluster of deaths that is interesting is that of the Marconi scientists over such a short period. That should be investigated.

My suspicion is that the deaths, especially the suicides, and other too young deaths with no cause attributed (like Mac Tonnies recently) are not conspiracy related but preternatural.

John A. Keel advised parents to not let their teens get involved in investigating UFO's. Like other occult phenomena, it opens percipients up to forces which are even more antagonistic to humanity than the reported EBE grey and reptilians. Investigators eventually become percipients and experience things that they can't account for.

Paranormal activity occurs in the wake of UFO sightings and investigations. I'm not even certain that skeptics are immune to the effects. I'd say the only protection is strong religious faith, and I'd still like to see studies of whether prayers in other religions end abduction experiences.

sorry but you sound like you work for the government???

[FROGLIPZ]

Originally Posted by conspiracygirl

The above might explain some marginality but doesn't really explain why the topic of ufology does my head in. That would be due to a propensity for magical thinking and an experience that has shown me that nobody knows what the heck is going on around them. Nothing is impossible anymore - they changed the boundaries and I don't know where they end.

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[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by FROGLIPZ

sorry but you sound like you work for the government???

If only you knew Daniel.......

btw..what was your original name on the board......just curious.

[FROGLIPZ]

its caroline or just call me caro

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by FROGLIPZ

its caroline or just call me caro

Did you post here before...?

BTW ...Changeling/Somerville/daniel was an old poster that many of us knew for years. Definitely did not work for the gubbermint in any capacity you mean. He was a very knowledgable person about the ufo phenom (almost knew as much as I do... ). Like myself he was well read in the occult and folklore aspects of the ufo enigma. ....and he was a 'born again Christian' though not a hard core Bible thumper.
IMO his input on the ufo enigma is sorely missed but his religious posture tended to bother many here who were not so inclined.

[Skeptical]

When he was on a roll, Daniel could churn out 5000-word posts like no one I've ever seen. As Doc said, he saw everything through the prism of his Christian faith and that made him a lightning rod for attack. He emerges periodically and, in fact, it seems like he is due to put in an appearance. Wonder if he's lurking out there...

S

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Skeptical

When he was on a roll, Daniel could churn out 5000-word posts like no one I've ever seen. As Doc said, he saw everything through the prism of his Christian faith and that made him a lightning rod for attack. He emerges periodically and, in fact, it seems like he is due to put in an appearance. Wonder if he's lurking out there...

S

I often wonder if he looks in now and then to see what we are up to.

Namaste Daniel.....or perhaps I should say Maranatha.

[FROGLIPZ]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Did you post here before...?

BTW ...Changeling/Somerville/daniel was an old poster that many of us knew for years. Definitely did not work for the gubbermint in any capacity you mean. He was a very knowledgable person about the ufo phenom (almost knew as much as I do... ). Like myself he was well read in the occult and folklore aspects of the ufo enigma. ....and he was a 'born again Christian' though not a hard core Bible thumper.
IMO his input on the ufo enigma is sorely missed but his religious posture tended to bother many here who were not so inclined.

sorry but im a bit lost now lol who is daniel?
and no this is my first time here. its quite nice to be able to have your opinion without ppl thinking your crazy lol even though sometimes i would have to agree with them lol

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by FROGLIPZ

sorry but im a bit lost now lol who is daniel?
and no this is my first time here. its quite nice to be able to have your opinion without ppl thinking your crazy lol even though sometimes i would have to agree with them lol

You responded to a post above by S Changeling...that is daniel.
Sadly he does not post here anymore.