For Carol: Walking With Popes

[orangekea]

Pope Pius XII launched Servizio Informazioni del Vaticano(SIV), an agency at cross purposes with Majestic-12.




This is an intensely controversial, ET and religious conspiracy related topic, based on alleged insider information disclosed by a Vatican official, link in SOURCE.



FOR HE WHO IS NOT AGAINST US IS FOR US

In Februari 1954 Pope Pius XII received Los Angelos Bishop James Francis McIntyre, who provided him with an extraordinary report. Two days before, at the request of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, the bishop had been part of a delegation witness to a clandestine U.S./extraterrestrial meeting at Edwards Air Force Base. This event was the meeting that occurred in California at Muroc Airfield (which later became Edwards Air Force Base) of an alien delegation with President Eisenhower, attended by Bishop McIntyre. The meeting was filmed by the U.S. military with 3 16mm cameras, placed at different points, loaded with color film and spring drive motors; that is because each camera operator had to change the film every 3 minutes and because in the presence of the aliens, electric motors did not work. In total they shot 20 minutes of film in 7 rolls, each of them 30 meters in length.

At the end of the meeting, each member of the Earth delegation swore never to reveal to anyone what he had seen and what he had heard about the aliens. It was impressed on Bishop McIntyre before reaching Rome, that his oath included the Holy Father. The bishop rejected this, and took his report to the Vatican.

After having spoken with Bishop McIntyre at length, Pope Pius XII meditated deeply on the possible implications of an exclusively American military relationship with the aliens. The Pope decided to launch a secret information department with a structure similar to the fascist military intelligence departments, codenamed SIV(=Servizio Informazioni del Vaticano) that would gather all possible information regarding the activities of the alien entity and information acquired by the Americans. It was very important to keep open channels of communication with President Eisenhower.

The SIV was basically constituted to acquire and to manage all secret information regarding alien matters, coordinating with intelligence organizations in other countries. The main goal of the newly formed department was to manage all aspects of the moral, philosophical and religious implications of continuing ET contact.





An Etherian/Nordic faction of ETs met with SIV and Pope Pius XII inside the Vatican Gardens.




Bishop McIntyre, members of SIV, and Pope Pius XII himself had contact with a faction of ETs, including Etherians (light-emitting and humanlike) and Nordics (humanlike aliens with Scandinavian looks). These extraterrestrials expressed an affinity with Christ and his message, and gave a warning regarding the U.S. involvement with the Greys. Meetings with the members of SIV happened many times in the United States and twice also inside the Vatican Gardens near the Pontifical Academy of Science, in the presence of Pope Pius XII. I find it hard to wrap my mind around this, but the (truly pious) Pius XII considered these aliens as a special kind of converts to the Christian faith.

Stunning as it seems, the Pope effectively had committed SIV (and by extension the Church) to a treaty with Etherians and Nordics, obviously at cross purposes to the American Majestic-12 who began an alliance with the Greys. (Etherians made a similar offer for cooperation to President Eisenhower, stipulating the U.S. get rid of nuclear arms first.) For many years the Church of Rome was to receive assistance in its missions, in particular by getting the ET's views on social and political situations internationally.

This situation (the secret treaty) continued on throughout the Pontificate of Angelo Giussepe Roncalli (Pope Blessed John XXIII), who many times expressed to the leaders of SIV his fears regarding investing too much trust in these beings. That may be one of the main reasons for convening The Second Vatican Ecumenical Council: investigating the need to take a first concrete step toward the renewal of the Church, in view of the possibility of imminent contact.

Pope Blessed John XXIII came to believe it would be too disruptive to the believers to learn of close cooperation between the Vatican and alien visitors. He decided that direct contacts should end, separating the paths of Church and ETs. Before his death in 1963 from acute peritonitis he referred to them as benevolent beings, capable of Christian faith. His dying declaration, conceivably affirming his separate human interpretation of his faith was: "The open arms of Christ were the purpose of my pontificate. A humble and modest pontificate as you see, for which I assume all responsibility. I am satisfied in what I have done and how I have done it."

In a secret manuscript from Pope Blessed John XXIII (Angelo Giussepe Roncalli) to his successor, which contained one special dossier about "Servizio Informazioni del Vaticano," the Pope mentioned a passage from the Gospel of Mark that clearly explained the position of the Church regarding these benevolent beings coming from other worlds.
Dal Vangelo secondo Marco ( 9, 38 e seg)
In quel tempo, Giovanni rispose a Gesù dicendo: "Maestro, abbiamo visto uno che scacciava i démoni nel tuo nome e glielo abbiamo vietato, perché non era dei nostri". Ma Gesù disse: "Non glielo proibite, perché non c'è nessuno che faccia un miracolo nel mio nome e subito dopo possa parlare male di me. Chi non è contro di noi è per noi. Chiunque vi darÃ* da bere un bicchiere d'acqua nel mio nome perché siete di Cristo, vi dico in veritÃ* che non perderÃ* la sua ricompensa".

Translated to English it reads (New Testament, Mark 9:38):
'At which time, John responded to Jesus saying: "Master, we saw a man who was casting out demons in your name and we forbade him because he was not one of us."
But Jesus said: "Forbid him not, for there is no man who shall do a miracle in my name that can then lightly speak evil of me. For he who is not against us is for us. For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because you belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward." '

Another quote from this Pontiff (St. Peter's Plaza April 5th 1961):
"Some voices previously were unknown. But this concerns voices, descending from the sky to the Earth, voices which possess and reflect the omnipotence of the Heavenly Father."





The body of Pope Blessed John XXIII at St. Peter's Basilica.




THE KERIGMA/SILOE PROGRAM





If SIV scientists are operating from the Alaska HAARP facility, the U.S. and the Vatican have joined forces.




During the meetings of Pope Pius XII with the ETs they informed him of the approach of a celestial body to the solar system in which resides an advanced, very warlike alien race. In 1990 the deep space probe named Siloe, part of a deep space exploration program called KERIGMA had taken photos of a huge planet with companion satellite getting closer to the Solar System. This information was received in Alaska during October 1995, and has been classified Above Top Secret or alternatively "Secretum Omega", a Vatican designation.





The Siloe probe was put in orbit by a (speculatively) Mach 5, scram-jet driven, Aurora space plane (artist's impression).




The Siloe probe was constructed in Area 51, has an electromagnetic impulse motor, and it was put in orbit by an Aurora type space plane. The probe did not have any calculations or pre-indications of the trajectory or the precise location of its distant target, because it was tasked to close with the huge approaching planet, while avoiding a collision and to return to our Solar System to a position close enough to transmit the data and images to the SIV radio telescope located in Alaska. The probe was launched as soon as the SIV telescope was operational and the probe was capable of transmitting images in 1995. A Vatican source's description of the location of these SIV facilities furthermore seems to suggest they are part of HAARP in Alaska. Meaning that the Vatican and the U.S. have joined forces in tackling the alien problem.





Spaceprobe Siloe had taken photos of a huge planet with companion satellite, approaching our Solar System.




orangekea



SOURCE:


Secretum Omega, Interview with the Jesuit





The Vatican, heartland of the Universal Church and SIV.

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ADDENDUM to For Carol: Walking With Popes, aimed especially at non-Catholics - WELCOME TO THE SIV GALLERY:


Superior Generals of the Society of Jesus (Church order popularly known as Jesuits), consequently heading Servizio Informazioni del Vaticano(SIV) 1954- :





Black Pope Jean-Baptiste Janssens (September 15, 1946 - October 5, 1964)





Black Pope Pedro Arrupe (May 22, 1965 - September 3, 1983)





Black Pope Peter Hans Kolvenbach (September 13, 1983-2008)





Black Pope Father Adolfo Nicolás on 19 Januari 2008 was elected as the 30th Superior General of the Society of Jesus, serving to the present day.




Note: the term 'black' pope means: hidden/secret


Vatican 'Commander In Chief' equivalent, leading SIV since 1954:





Pope Pius XII (1939-58)





Pope Blessed John XXIII (1958-63)





Pope Paul VI (1963-78)





Pope John Paul I (1978)





Pope John Paul II (1978-2005)





Pope Benedict XVI (2005- )

[dr wu23]

It reads like a work of fiction with some real names and facts thrown in an attempt to give it credibility.
There are many of these ufo conspiracy tales floating around out there.

[Darrell]

let me know when we have a flight vehicle capable of launching exoatmospheric probes to non orbiting planets (i.e. at greater than escape velocity). you are going to need a lot more than mach 5 capability to do that!

[Carol Nistri]

Thanks Orange,thats quite a story.

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by Darrell

let me know when we have a flight vehicle capable of launching exoatmospheric probes to non orbiting planets (i.e. at greater than escape velocity). you are going to need a lot more than mach 5 capability to do that!

Once a probe/satellite has entered space, isn't its own propulsion (for instance miniaturized nuclear reactor) enough to achieve necessary speeds, Darrell?

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

Thanks Orange,thats quite a story.

You are very welcome! It could be quite interesting to find out what the Roman Church believes and discovered about alien life.

This Vatican scientist seems prepared to accept aliens into Christian salvation.

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

It reads like a work of fiction with some real names and facts thrown in an attempt to give it credibility.
There are many of these ufo conspiracy tales floating around out there.

Agreed, single source, extraordinary claims: we need that proverbial grain of salt here fersure, dr wu. Still, I do not dismiss it out of hand.