Quest for truth

[Carol Nistri]

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UFO’s, Aliens, Abductions and the Quest for Truth

No other topic has gotten more ridicule, disbelief as well as blind belief like the whole UFO/Alien phenomena. There are people who deny it completely , no matter what you present, simply because they "think" it's not possible and it doesn't fit into their "world view" or "reality box", as a matter of fact, it actually may be a threat to their view of reality and sense of self and therefore they need to ignore/deny it, because it might open up a HUGE can of worms they are not ready to face, a bigger can than 9/11 or any other NWO/Illuminati conspiraries.....which actually take on a whole new level when considering the Truth about the Alien Agenda and the aspect of Hyperdimensional realities and beings outside our five sensory perception of the world we live in.

Dr. Richard Dolan, author of "UFO's and the National Security State - The Chronolgy of a Cover-Up" (more on him later) said it well in this interview (excerpt clip, 30sec.) Click here.

As a rule I don't really get into any discussion with debunkers who just act out of (dis)beliefs or personal opinion without having truly looked into the vast material and research that is out there with documented evidence. There is no point in discussing beliefs and set view points. Discussion is only constructive/productive when trying to find out the truth togther, as it is, not limited by personal preference or a conditioned world view. Beliefs need to be set aside for that to happen. Objectivity is asked for wihout conditioned bias.
Of course there is HUGE amounts of Disinfo out there, some deliberately infused to distract the truth seeker. I myself have gotten into some dead-ends when first getting into the UFO field as well as false hopes. It's a big swamp and at the beginning you don't know where to start......but for the sincere seeker with a critical open mind and effort to dig a bit, the reality of the situation will paint a very interesting picture. Without any doubt, something other-worldly IS going on.

Then there are people who just believe ANYTHING that is UFO or ET related, including channeled material, especially in the New Age arena, where UFO's and aliens are mostly perceived as fully benevolent and "nice" (lead by so-called "Ascended Masters", Angels, etc...), who are here to "save" us and get us out of the "mess" we're in. Well, the reality of the issue seems to show a little different scenario. And when I say "reality", I mean based on the reserach material that is out there, dissecting truth from lies with true Inutiton and Logic as it is all intermixed here and there.

When it comes to documented UFO cases, especifically involving the real Government and Military documents , there is one book to point out and that is Richard Dolan's "UFO's and the National Security State - The Chronolgy of a Cover-up"
Dolan has an academic background with the much needed critial but open mindest when researching such matter.
From his wesite www.keyholepublishing.com:

"Richard M. Dolan was born in Brooklyn, New York, in 1962. He holds an MA in History from the University of Rochester and a BA in History from Alfred University. He earned a Certificate in Political Theory from Oxford University and was a Rhodes Scholar finalist. Prior to his interest in anomalous phenomena, Dolan studied US Cold War strategy, Soviet history, and international diplomacy.
In 2000, he published a 500-page study, UFOs and the National Security State. This is the first volume of a two-part historical narrative of the national security dimensions of the UFO phenomenon from 1941 to the present. Included are the records of more than fifty military bases relating to violations of sensitive airspace by unknown objects, demonstrating that the US military has taken the topic of UFOs seriously indeed.
Apollo 14 astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell called Dolan's book "monumental," while Dr. Hal Puthoff, Director of the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin, declared it to be "a must-read for serious students in the field." "

For anyone who doubts that the UFO phenomena is real, or just a cover military operation (some believe that UFO's are just Nazi technology but has nothing "ET" like to them,others still explain UFO's with Jungian psychology as a projection of our collective, but with no "reality" to it) needs to read this book. It clearly shows that government and military a very aware of the UFO's and also that they DO NOT have a handle on it, nor really understand what is going on (at least on the lower levels, as there seems to be a "collaboration" between ET's and the "shadow" government or military industrial complex, hidden from any public exposure).

For a recent excellent full length interview with Richard Dolan, go here:
Richard Dolan - Signs of the Times Interview

to check out his book go here:
UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Coverup, 1941-1973

Then there is the DISCLOSURE PROJECT, under the guidance of Steven Greer, which also reveals the Government/Military Involvement of the UFO/ET issue. More about it here (including the infamous National Press Club Press Conference in 2001): www.disclosureproject.org

At first the Disclosure Project seems to be a very good source and has

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[Jurgen]

If I may...

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UFO’s, Aliens, Abductions and the Quest for Truth

No other topic has gotten more ridicule, disbelief as well as blind belief like the whole UFO/Alien phenomena. There are people who deny it completely , no matter what you present, simply because they "think" it's not possible and it doesn't fit into their "world view" or "reality box", as a matter of fact, it actually may be a threat to their view of reality and sense of self and therefore they need to ignore/deny it, because it might open up a HUGE can of worms they are not ready to face, a bigger can than 9/11 or any other NWO/Illuminati conspiraries.....which actually take on a whole new level when considering the Truth about the Alien Agenda and the aspect of Hyperdimensional realities and beings outside our five sensory perception of the world we live in.

Dr. Richard Dolan, author of "UFO's and the National Security State - The Chronolgy of a Cover-Up" (more on him later) said it well in this interview (excerpt clip, 30sec.) Click here.

As a rule I don't really get into any discussion with debunkers who just act out of (dis)beliefs or personal opinion without having truly looked into the vast material and research that is out there with documented evidence. There is no point in discussing beliefs and set view points. Discussion is only constructive/productive when trying to find out the truth togther, as it is, not limited by personal preference or a conditioned world view. Beliefs need to be set aside for that to happen. Objectivity is asked for wihout conditioned bias.
Of course there is HUGE amounts of Disinfo out there, some deliberately infused to distract the truth seeker. I myself have gotten into some dead-ends when first getting into the UFO field as well as false hopes. It's a big swamp and at the beginning you don't know where to start......but for the sincere seeker with a critical open mind and effort to dig a bit, the reality of the situation will paint a very interesting picture. Without any doubt, something other-worldly IS going on.

Then there are people who just believe ANYTHING that is UFO or ET related, including channeled material, especially in the New Age arena, where UFO's and aliens are mostly perceived as fully benevolent and "nice" (lead by so-called "Ascended Masters", Angels, etc...), who are here to "save" us and get us out of the "mess" we're in. Well, the reality of the issue seems to show a little different scenario. And when I say "reality", I mean based on the reserach material that is out there, dissecting truth from lies with true Inutiton and Logic as it is all intermixed here and there.

When it comes to documented UFO cases, especifically involving the real Government and Military documents , there is one book to point out and that is Richard Dolan's "UFO's and the National Security State - The Chronolgy of a Cover-up"
Dolan has an academic background with the much needed critial but open mindest when researching such matter.
From his wesite www.keyholepublishing.com:

"Richard M. Dolan was born in Brooklyn, New York, in 1962. He holds an MA in History from the University of Rochester and a BA in History from Alfred University. He earned a Certificate in Political Theory from Oxford University and was a Rhodes Scholar finalist. Prior to his interest in anomalous phenomena, Dolan studied US Cold War strategy, Soviet history, and international diplomacy.
In 2000, he published a 500-page study, UFOs and the National Security State. This is the first volume of a two-part historical narrative of the national security dimensions of the UFO phenomenon from 1941 to the present. Included are the records of more than fifty military bases relating to violations of sensitive airspace by unknown objects, demonstrating that the US military has taken the topic of UFOs seriously indeed.
Apollo 14 astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell called Dolan's book "monumental," while Dr. Hal Puthoff, Director of the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin, declared it to be "a must-read for serious students in the field." "

For anyone who doubts that the UFO phenomena is real, or just a cover military operation (some believe that UFO's are just Nazi technology but has nothing "ET" like to them,others still explain UFO's with Jungian psychology as a projection of our collective, but with no "reality" to it) needs to read this book. It clearly shows that government and military a very aware of the UFO's and also that they DO NOT have a handle on it, nor really understand what is going on (at least on the lower levels, as there seems to be a "collaboration" between ET's and the "shadow" government or military industrial complex, hidden from any public exposure).

For a recent excellent full length interview with Richard Dolan, go here:
Richard Dolan - Signs of the Times Interview

to check out his book go here:
UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Coverup, 1941-1973

Then there is the DISCLOSURE PROJECT, under the guidance of Steven Greer, which also reveals the Government/Military Involvement of the UFO/ET issue. More about it here (including the infamous National Press Club Press Conference in 2001): www.disclosureproject.org

At first the Disclosure Project seems to be a very good source and has...

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[mercuryrapids]

Thanks, Jurgen.

I've corrected Carol's post anyway, just in case anybody didn't scroll down.

Carol, if any pasted text appears the wrong colour or links are a different colour, just select all the text and click the button that looks like two As crossed out (next to the B I U buttons). This will set all the selected text and links to the forum default.

[Carol Nistri]

thanks Merc,Jurg,now what didja think of the content?

[Skizicks]

All too often these books much are less a search for "Truth", than a search for confirmation of existing beliefs.

[Carol Nistri]

Dunno Skiz,this is where Im stumped.Its the only thing that completes the whole picture,they come they want to create a new hybrid race part them and part us.Makes a certain amount of sense,ufos being seen flying round and round the earths skies makes zero sense. Theve got to have a reason for it all,abductions along with a hybrid might just be that reason.Either that or its what were supposed to think.

[orbit]

,ufos being seen flying round and round the earths skies makes zero sense. Theve got to have a reason for it all,abductions along with a hybrid might just be that reason.Either that or its what were supposed to think.

I think it's all we are left to think mainly due to current beliefs. If hybrids are being made, why are they making them?
Before anyone quotes the hyper paranoid David Jacobs belief "to take over the planet and replace humanity". Why would they do that? If they wanted us replaced surely it would be easier to replace us with their own race. Instead of creating a hybrid!
Maybe the first thing we need to know is who are they, when we know that answer the hybrid agenda will make sence!
Just my thoughts on things.

[StephieM]

I'm not sure about the whole hybrid thing. I don't think they are planning to take over our world otherwise they would have done it a long time ago. Maybe there is something in our genetic makeup they need. Their race is in danger of becoming extinct and their only way of survival is to genetically create a hybrid that is half human. Perhaps they are making hybrids to live on another planet similar to earth. Their planet is in trouble and the closest place possible to relocate is a planet much like earth. Maybe they are making them for the purpose of someday making contact with us. If we see that they are half human, maybe it wouldn't be so difficult to accept. There could be a number of reasons, but I don't think it's a diabolical agenda. That's just my opinion.

[Carol Nistri]

actually that business of their coming from a dying planet has been done in Hollywood and for the life of me I cant think of the name.(Dr.Wu remember the movie of the handsome scientist that flies his own plane,eventually hes captured and sent to a planet where the people all live underground. The meteorities hit all over the place ,what the heck is the name of it,the aliens are all white haired with huge pompdor hair styles.The protector alien is a gruesome creature and I cant think of the name.)

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Skizicks

All too often these books much are less a search for "Truth", than a search for confirmation of existing beliefs.

I think that's true to a large extent.
All of this stuff about alien-human hybrid's and the other alien conspiracy stuff is pure speculation and in many cases it could be outright fabrication.