UFOs Are Real - Dr Michio Kaku

[Martin]

From: www.realufos.net

Michio Kaku comments on UFOs and Leslie Kean's book.

Michio Kaku (Born January 24, 1947) is an American theoretical physicist specializing in string field theory, and a futurist. He is a popularizer of science, host of two radio programs and a best-selling author.

Kaku was born in San Jose, California to Japanese immigrant parents. Reflecting on his childhood, he said: his grandfather had come to the United States to take part in the clean-up operation after the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake.

His father was born in California, but received education in Japan, so spoke little English. Both his parents were put in the Tule Lake War Relocation Center, where they met and where his brother was born.

[nutsandbolts]

Well done mr Kaku.

[dr wu23]

This quote is mostly for Dee since she didn't understand the influence that sci-fi has had on science in general and specifically the idea of space travel.
From Discover, Sept 2010 issue;

"Michio Kaku grew up admiring two people: Flash Gordon and Albert Einstein.
On his Science Channel tv show the theoretical physicist gets to play a little of both. In each episode of SCI-FI Science he invites the worlds most interesting minds to demonstrate how science will realize the technologies of science fiction.
....Kaku takes on the plotlines that dominate sci-fi visions of the future.
Kaku expresses unbridled optimism that we will reach the amazing tomorows that science fiction has always promised."
Sept 1 at 10p.m. EST on Science Channel

[Miss Deetective]

Dr Wu
And as usual you totally misunderstood the point of my post about sci-fi!!
I was referring to armchair ufologists such as those of us here who post on message boards.
I think even Mr. Kaku would admit that not ALL sci-fi scenarios are a prediction of future developments.
Why do YOU think it is called science FICTION????

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Miss Deetective

Dr Wu
And as usual you totally misunderstood the point of my post about sci-fi!!
I was referring to armchair ufologists such as those of us here who post on message boards.
I think even Mr. Kaku would admit that not ALL sci-fi scenarios are a prediction of future developments.
Why do YOU think it is called science FICTION????

Boy....you just won't admit when you don't know what the **** you are talking about...which is most of the time.

[Miss Deetective]

What's to admit??? That you got it wrong again??? I know what I mean when I type something and if you misunderstand....that's your problem, not mine.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Miss Deetective

What's to admit??? That you got it wrong again??? I know what I mean when I type something and if you misunderstand....that's your problem, not mine.

I misunderstood nothing.....
My point was, from the very beginning and one that you obviously did not understand, that science fiction has always influenced science and scientists in general and anyone who bothers to educate themselves or read know this simple fact and Kaku is a living example of this. Your silly comment about 'armchair ufologists' doesn't have a damn thing to do with the issue at hand but you are obviously blind to this or so embarrased that you won't or can't admit it even after I posted confirmation of this from a repsected science magazine.
Get over it dear....

[Miss Deetective]

So which is it?? Is Kaku credible or not??? On another thread you kind of put him down when he didn't agree with your views....or maybe that's Vallee's views???
I get you and Vallee mixed up a lot....hard to tell you two apart anymore.

[StephieM]

Now that Kaku has admitted UFOs are real and coming from other planets, I think I'm going to have to chase him down and ask him to marry me.

I suppose you're going to say Michio Kaku isn't a "REAL" scientist now, huh Wu?

Steph

[S Changeling]

In a way it's beside the point. It doesn't matter what anyone's opinion on that is. It matters what was actually said by Michio Kaku and whether it can support a particular theory of UFO's.

There really isn't anything new or different in Kaku's book review. This is not disclosure. This is personal opinion by a scientist outside of his specialization. As such, taking it as the holy grail, as the gospel truth, is falling into the trap of argument from authority.

He has no authority to say that UFO's are from a biological extrasolar civilization, because he doesn't express direct knowledge and therefore he doesn't know any more about it than we do. He does have the authority, as a physicist, to speculate on what new physics and technology will be possible a thousand years in the future, or a million years in the future.

That speculation is not, in itself physics. It is one step away from hard SF. In fact, that is the point of his show. I liked the one dealing with light sabers, after all I've taken both fencing and aikido and enjoy swordplay and defense techniques when faced with swords.

I did live action role playing until my late 30's and can attest that wearing real chainmail on a hot summers day in Texas while hitting people with mock swords gave me an appreciation of what combat was like in earlier centuries.

None of that live action role playing made me an authority on medieval warfare and though I read many renaissance era fencing manuals and read primary accounts of melees in the 16th and 17th centuries, I was no Bonnetti. Maybe I was a Falstaff? I still drink enough imported English ale!

The point is, we can develop an interest and expertise in a field as a hobby in addition to our work, but that does not make us an authority. Scholars study the things we believe we are authorities on.

The first question I'd ask those who believe Michio Kaku's book review (and I will get this book in Sept) proves the ETH is this: How can it? Kaku's discussed, in "Parallel Worlds" how intelligence in our universe could escape the death of this universe billions of years in the future. How can we assume that another intelligence could not escape it's universe and end up in the here and now? Could such entities end up bedeviling us with oddities that seem to point to EBE's from our neck of the woods, but actually points to something far stranger?

Michio Kaku isn't really the Sagan of this generation but then Sagan was over rated in my book. He's a physicist who might very well feel that his specialization isn't making much progress, so he's contributing to the public's knowledge of physics.

Keep in mind that the public's interested in entertainment, even when the subject is as complex as science. Kaku's done a good job making science entertaining, but does the public really learn anything?

Much of Ufology is entertainment as well. Vallee is the scientist who comes closest to studying the phenomenon objectively, but he isn't making any progress either. Friedman is trained in science, but does his Masters make him a scientist of Kaku or Vallee's caliber? When Michio Kaku gets funding at his university to study UFO's then I'll take his views on the subject more seriously and await his report. So far, there are few reports from science on a subject that's mostly been folklore to begin with.

Much of the progress in Ufology didn't require scientists, but it required an investigative attitude that scientists simply were not trained in. Scientists investigate natural phenomena that repeats and is amenable to controlled observation. UFO's may seem to repeat, but we can't control when or where they are observed.

Even more, UFO occupant encounters by usually a single awake human being, and personal abduction reports, often based on questionable hypnotic regression that describes an opening sleep like state, are not amenable to controlled observation.

I don't doubt biological beings in other star systems. I doubt that UFO's, even the seemingly metallic UFO's, are flown by EBE's (if they are flown at all). Let me paraphrase and update Keel:The UFO phenomenon does not need aerospace engineers, physicists and generals. It needs exorcists, folklorists and Forteans.

All we have now are stories. The burden of proof of the ETH crowd is not to show that physicists believe we may someday fly to the stars with new physics in a thousand years or more. The burden of proof of the ETH crowd is not to show that the trace physical evidence is caused by an EBE in a physical space craft. The burden of proof of the ETH crowd is to show that their stories are not part of the transmogrification of world folklore.