Disclosure 2012

[FROGLIPZ]

Originally Posted by Jason Chapman

I don’t think disclosure of alien contact will happen, not in the way many Ufologists want it to happen anyway.



Hello by the way, I’m the new kid on the block.

i agree, they will keep there little secret.
welcome

[Jason Chapman]

4, they are an alien form of AL-Qaeda & the authorities are doing their best (at great pain to those who know) to stop them from destroying the human race...

I have to admit Dejarma, I had to read that point twice. An alien race with hostile intention is a good theory, and a good reason any government would want to keep the truth from the public.

I have heard the question 'Why not invade and take us over.' many times, and my answer to that is simple, 'its no easy task ruling an entire galaxy.'
Darth Vader seems to achieve this with ease in Star Wars, however when you look at the reality of it rulling an entire galaxy with several hundred billion inhabited planets is impossible. You're going to need an unlimited amout of foot soldiers and Star Destroyers if it military conquest you're after. Perhaps a virus is the most plausable way forward, to make the population submissive.

What exactly do you believe regarding the ufo phenomenon?


What's needed imho is some real dedicated science with some serious money and serious minds to back it up. Until then the ufo community will remain chaotic and with multiple factions arguing among themselves.

First of all Dr my interest I hope is of a scientific nature.

a. There are civillizations out there who are capable of interstellar travel.
b. The UFO phenomenon has been around since mankind was first able to draw on cave walls.
c. The governments of planet earth have knowledge that we are not the only intelligent species in the universe.

You're absolutely right, we need a serious minded scientist to champion the UFO cause, but many people on this forum will agree that no respectable scientist in their right mind will touch the UFO phenomenon.

There is so much infighting within the UFO community we are way beyond the point of no return.

So as far as disclosure is concerned - The Government, Men in Black, secret societies, aliens are winning and the UFO community are losing badly.

'There is no truth out there - There's just the Internet...'

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by Jason Chapman

I don’t think disclosure of alien contact will happen, not in the way many Ufologists want it to happen anyway.

Its twenty years this year since the first exoplanet was discovered, since then several hundred more have been publicly announced. Before 1992 all but a few maverick scientists such as Carl Sagan and Arthur C Clarke were adamant that there were other planets beyond our solar system. The stand point of the rest of the scientific community was a speculative point of view ‘Maybe there is, maybe there isn’t’


These days new planets are being discovered right left and centre, no scientist today would dare say there aren’t any other plants out there. Moving on to whether there is life out there, since the discovery of ‘51 Pegasi b’ there has been growing rumor of life beyond planet earth. Scientists like Stephen Hawking and Brian Cox are just two of many scientists who believe we are on the verge of a breakthrough in the discovery of life elsewhere.

All eyes are on the Pathfinder Rover at the moment, the most advanced rover yet to be sent to the red planet, this one should tell us whether there is still, or has been life on Mars. My prediction is that we will know within a year whether it’s been successful in its mission, then we will have full disclosure of life beyond planet earth. People need to understand this will not be the disclosure of intelligent life, but simple micro organisms, bacteria, plant life etc.

Now moving on to the UFO community. I believe when scientists do announce life elsewhere in the solar system, then the whole culture that surrounds UFOs will collapse, and the reason is this:

Once scientists announce that they have discovered life on Mars one of the moon of Jupiter etc then the most fundamental question in the history of mankind will be answered. ‘Are we alone?’ or ‘Is there life out there?’ are just two variations of the same question.

Whenever the general public is informed of anything profound, for example human cloning, it will be the topic of discussion for all of five minutes then people will forget about. The same will happen with conformation of life beyond planet earth. How many people reading this post will faint with shock when the scientific community announces life exists elsewhere, I know I won’t and I know most of the general population will just shrug their shoulders and say ‘I knew that Anyway’

What you have to realize is that the powers that be that have hidden the truth from the general public have been very clever. For over half a century now the human race has been educated through TV, films, books, and now the internet. The science fiction genre is endless, there’s isn’t a person on this forum who isn’t a fan of science fiction of some sort whether it be Star Trek, Star Wars or Dr Who.

The seeds of UFO ideology were planted just after the so called Roswell incident. You had the heyday UFO era of the 1950s and 1960s, endless B Movies about invaders from Mars, the space race, cold war and so forth.

I’m not saying the UFO culture will totally collapse when disclosure is made. There will be more questions concerning the complexity of life elsewhere. ‘If life exists in simple microbes what are the chances of intelligent life existing elsewhere?’

As for that mythical White House press conference everyone is waiting for, it ain’t going to happen I’m afraid. And once the general public and scientific community get used to disclosure then stories like Roswell, Rendlesham Forest, Alien Abduction, Governments cover ups etc will quietly slip away because no one will care.

Hello by the way, I’m the new kid on the block.

Hi Jason Chapman, welcome! I'm always glad to hear someone is thinking their way through UFO riddles. One thing I agree about, either life on other planets will be found, or already has been found (Mars 'bacteria'), and then it's a matter of NASA making the call on when to come out with this (still pretty awesome, amazing) info.


orangekea

[jk1961]

welcome J C DISCLOSURE nah it aint going to happen the govs have got to much to loose and we have even more to loose

[Jason Chapman]

I think this could all be part of the road to disclosure, undertanding the thing that gives our universe solid matter, then announcing life on mArs or elsewhere in our solar system.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...Wednesday.html

[ZeroKidd]

The best reason I know of "aliens" never having invaded the earth is one I have never heard from another ufologist.

Back during the Second World War, one high ranking Japanese officer said of invading main land America, (actually invading it for the purpose of conquering and occupying it,) He said, "You can't. There would be a gun behind every blade of grass."[/font]

Now, never mind "extraterrestrials" are more advanced in everything, even if they have 10,000 ships with 100,000 individuals on each, that's only a billion of their kind. And they can't mobilize all of them on the planet.

Now, with the planet Earth currently inhabited with just over 7 billion of us, with about half of that number being able bodied men and women between the ages of 16 & 60, they are simply outnumbered. (And always will be.)

Now disclosure, that's another matter.

[ChrisPerridas]

I hope I am not too late on this one. If "disclosure" is supposed to be a single illuminating event, then the wait will be eternal. Not going to happen. If "disclosure" is a process of decades slowly peeling back the mystery, then it is happening as we speak. Maybe like a glacier moving, but it is happening. It may not be the answer we want or expect, though.

Has anyone read Dolan's book "A.D.". I never got a chance to order a copy. I gladly accept spoilers!


original post:

I accidentally posted this is the wrong forum! Forgive me, as I am a new member.. and sort of new to forums as well.

I am very interested in others views on the complete disclosure of Alien contact in 2012. My belief is that it will be, and that it has already begun.
I feel that with out awakening in 2012, will come the full disclosure. The sightings in the past 2 years have astronomically jumped to new heights, and our awareness is spreading like wild fire. Exciting times.

Please tell me your views! All views are welcome here,

Love and Light,
Kestral

[Jason Chapman]

Originally Posted by ChrisPerridas

I hope I am not too late on this one. If "disclosure" is supposed to be a single illuminating event, then the wait will be eternal. Not going to happen. If "disclosure" is a process of decades slowly peeling back the mystery, then it is happening as we speak. Maybe like a glacier moving, but it is happening. It may not be the answer we want or expect, though.

Has anyone read Dolan's book "A.D.". I never got a chance to order a copy. I gladly accept spoilers!


original post:

I accidentally posted this is the wrong forum! Forgive me, as I am a new member.. and sort of new to forums as well.

I am very interested in others views on the complete disclosure of Alien contact in 2012. My belief is that it will be, and that it has already begun.
I feel that with out awakening in 2012, will come the full disclosure. The sightings in the past 2 years have astronomically jumped to new heights, and our awareness is spreading like wild fire. Exciting times.

Please tell me your views! All views are welcome here,

Love and Light,
Kestral

You could be right chris

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...s-survive.html

[Martin]

Hello to all the new members. I hope to b more active in the coming weeks. Been busy with real life things recently.

[starman2003]

Originally Posted by ZeroKidd

The best reason I know of "aliens" never having invaded the earth is one I have never heard from another ufologist.

[color=#9c9b98][color=#9c9b98]Back during the Second World War, one high ranking Japanese officer said of invading main land America, (actually invading it for the purpose of conquering and occupying it,) He said, "You can't. There would be a gun behind every blade of grass."

Na, the only problem, aside from US industrial power, was distance. The Japanese succeeded in subduing large parts of densely populated China, and other asian nations.

Now, never mind "extraterrestrials" are more advanced in everything, even if they have 10,000 ships with 100,000 individuals on each, that's only a billion of their kind. And they can't mobilize all of them on the planet.

Now, with the planet Earth currently inhabited with just over 7 billion of us, with about half of that number being able bodied men and women between the ages of 16 & 60, they are simply outnumbered. (And always will be.)

Very naive. They have mind control. Even if they didn't, there are many examples of conquerers or hegemons dominating other nations with garrisons amounting to only a tiny fraction of their population--Britain in India for example.