cat heavens

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Yes...and right here of all places.....

Whatever, good dr. Except there are no faith-positions in Opening Post, only descriptions of subjective experience and perception.

Why do you seem to avoid addressing the relationship between heavens and the EDH? Without some realm like the afterlife, that theory would literally have nowhere to go....


orangekea

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by orangekea

Whatever, good dr. Except there are no faith-positions in Opening Post, only descriptions of subjective experience and perception.

Why do you seem to avoid addressing the relationship between heavens and the EDH? Without some realm like the afterlife, that theory would literally have nowhere to go....


orangekea

The EDH in it's original form had nothing to do with the afterlife or any heavens. When Dr Vallee started using it it referred to parallel realities or alternate realities but not supernatural realms. He even postulated fractal beings at one time as well as other types of sentitent lifeforms that might inhabit different physical realms but not supernatural.
Even Keel who postulated the Superspectrum (and ultraterrestrials) was not referring to spiritual or supernatural worlds but differernt vibrational ones that related to science theories.
What he proposed had nothing to do with what you are referring to.... so are you changing the parameters?

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

The EDH in it's original form had nothing to do with the afterlife or any heavens. When Dr Vallee started using it it referred to parallel realities or alternate realities but not supernatural realms. He even postulated fractal beings at one time as well as other types of sentitent lifeforms that might inhabit different physical realms but not supernatural.
Even Keel who postulated the Superspectrum (and ultraterrestrials) was not referring to spiritual or supernatural worlds but differernt vibrational ones that related to science theories.
What he proposed had nothing to do with what you are referring to.... so are you changing the parameters?

I am changing the parameters dr wu23.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by orangekea

I am changing the parameters dr wu23.

Ok......knock yourself out.




btw.....I like cats......our cat Merlin died many years ago but this was what he looked like.

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Ok......knock yourself out.




btw.....I like cats......our cat Merlin died many years ago but this was what he looked like.

Merlin looks wonderful, sorry for your loss. I am proposing, similar to member Antrikshaadmi, that the ancient labels Spiritual and Supernatural are inaccurate. They actually could signify early reporting of Extra Dimensional experiences.

Thus, the Afterlife could be the first hidden dimension we are discovering.


orangekea

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by orangekea

Merlin looks wonderful, sorry for your loss. I am proposing, similar to member Antrikshaadmi, that the ancient labels Spiritual and Supernatural are inaccurate. They actually could signify early reporting of Extra Dimensional experiences.

Thus, the Afterlife could be the first hidden dimension we are discovering.


orangekea

Terminology is always an issue when discussing this area. People use the models they feel comfortable with and are culturally raised with.

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Terminology is always an issue when discussing this area. People use the models they feel comfortable with and are culturally raised with.

I'm attempting to bridge seemingly unrelated models (like religious experience vs. modern UFOlogy) if at all appropiate, because if they describe the same phenomenon from alternate perspective, maybe our world/reality and weird metaphysics could begin to make more sense together.


orangekea


P.S. one of the problems I am trying to overcome is to diminish the sense of threat this poses to people with a highly defined worldview (like for instance Evangelical Christians or Atheists).

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by orangekea

I'm attempting to bridge seemingly unrelated models (like religious experience vs. modern UFOlogy) if at all appropiate, because if they describe the same phenomenon from alternate perspective, maybe our world/reality and weird metaphysics could begin to make more sense together.

You might find Bruce Duensing's ideas interesting over at Intangible Materiality. http://materialintangible.blogspot.com/

P.S. one of the problems I am trying to overcome is to diminish the sense of threat this poses to people with a highly defined worldview (like for instance Evangelical Christians or Atheists)

Good luck with that.....
Changeling who used to post here is a prime example of that and of course some atheists are just as bad in their own way.