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Three Mysterious Creature Encounters Reported From Pennsylvania

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Three very interesting encounters with some very unusual creatures have come to my attention recently from Pennsylvania. The Keystone State has a long history of not only observations of Bigfoot, but also of many other mysterious beasts as well. Year after year members of the public reluctantly come forward to report their encounters with strange creatures that aren’t supposed to exist. The following is a summary of some of the recent cases that I have been investigating. For more information see -

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Three very interesting encounters with some very unusual creatures have come to my attention recently from Pennsylvania. The Keystone State has a long history of not only observations of Bigfoot, but also of many other mysterious beasts as well. Year after year members of the public reluctantly come forward to report their encounters with strange creatures that aren’t supposed to exist. The following is a summary of some of the recent cases that I have been investigating. For more information see -

http://www.stangordon.info/wp/2012/0...-pennsylvania/
Assuming of course they aren't misidents, they all sound like they could be 'Mothman' sightings though the first did not having those glowing eyes usually reported with 'Mothman'.
So where do we place these 'beings'? In the EDH, the supernatural, the paranormal, hallucinations..?
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I would rule out hallucinations of the type an individual mind might experience, shared hallucinations perhaps but that begs the question of how they are shared. Was a third party directing the hallucinations?

Those reports reminded me of mothman too, mainly due to the strangeness. I think the paranormal and supernatural are part of the EDH. Whether the ultra-dimensions are part of this universe or not is another possibility that science has revealed with it's multiverse theory.

Maybe it's just my magical thinking but I find these reports easier to believe than some ET abduction reports. Perhaps because ET abduction is a deliberate act and requires an agenda which we can only guess at, whereas these sightings appear to be happenstance.
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I would rule out hallucinations of the type an individual mind might experience, shared hallucinations perhaps but that begs the question of how they are shared. Was a third party directing the hallucinations?

Those reports reminded me of mothman too, mainly due to the strangeness. I think the paranormal and supernatural are part of the EDH. Whether the ultra-dimensions are part of this universe or not is another possibility that science has revealed with it's multiverse theory.

Maybe it's just my magical thinking but I find these reports easier to believe than some ET abduction reports. Perhaps because ET abduction is a deliberate act and requires an agenda which we can only guess at, whereas these sightings appear to be happenstance.
So why do we see these creatures/beings just now and then? Have they accidentally slipped into our dimension via a weak spot, did they come here on purpose, are they always here but we can't see them all the time, or are they psychic projections like tulpas and not real in an actual sense-archetypes from the collective unconscious ala Jung's idea?
Lots of questions and not many answers.
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Jungs collective unconscious is a strange idea, ok some people might see tulpas but I don't think multiple witnesses do. I think they see apparitions. Where does the energy come from to generate apparitions? Is it universal psychic energy from ourselves? Does the energy have it's own intelligence? Could it be some type of parasitic entity? Is it some form of cutural conditioning as Vallee pondered, or random expressions of our conscious repression? I find it hard to accept that our subconscious is projecting all this because according to Jung there are certain conditions that are favourable to these apparitions, such as social unrest and oppression. That suggests a pattern, it is not random.

In support of Jung's ideas are the universal dream symbols, if one believes in such things. If our unconscious works the same ways in dreams throughout all civilisation, then perhaps the apparitions aren't so random after all. But how does our unconscious connect with everyone elses? Is it like a network of PCs connecting to a host computer?

The GCP (Global Consciousness Project) claims to measure levels of human psychic activity and their data suggests spikes of activity before some disasters, such as 9/11. Could this be a demonstration of unconscious precognitive psychic abililty, if so it would indicate that the collective unconscious is leading us, not a reactive expression.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_...usness_Project

I think, at least in some cases, people are seeing creatures that slip across a membrane, a parallel dimension or multiverse. Some might come here on purpose, such as bigfoot - he/she seems to like it here and also seems to have the knack of disappearing at will. Other creatures like mothman, thunderbirds perhaps strayed here and by accident.

Of course some of them could be shapeshifters who do live on the planet all the time, tricksters from a hidden dimension who can materialise at will.
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Jungs collective unconscious is a strange idea, ok some people might see tulpas but I don't think multiple witnesses do. I think they see apparitions. Where does the energy come from to generate apparitions? Is it universal psychic energy from ourselves? Does the energy have it's own intelligence? Could it be some type of parasitic entity? Is it some form of cutural conditioning as Vallee pondered, or random expressions of our conscious repression? I find it hard to accept that our subconscious is projecting all this because according to Jung there are certain conditions that are favourable to these apparitions, such as social unrest and oppression. That suggests a pattern, it is not random.

In support of Jung's ideas are the universal dream symbols, if one believes in such things. If our unconscious works the same ways in dreams throughout all civilisation, then perhaps the apparitions aren't so random after all. But how does our unconscious connect with everyone elses? Is it like a network of PCs connecting to a host computer?

The GCP (Global Consciousness Project) claims to measure levels of human psychic activity and their data suggests spikes of activity before some disasters, such as 9/11. Could this be a demonstration of unconscious precognitive psychic abililty, if so it would indicate that the collective unconscious is leading us, not a reactive expression.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_...usness_Project

I think, at least in some cases, people are seeing creatures that slip across a membrane, a parallel dimension or multiverse. Some might come here on purpose, such as bigfoot - he/she seems to like it here and also seems to have the knack of disappearing at will. Other creatures like mothman, thunderbirds perhaps strayed here and by accident.

Of course some of them could be shapeshifters who do live on the planet all the time, tricksters from a hidden dimension who can materialise at will.
Why is the collective unconscious/archetypes a strange idea..? As opposed to interdimensional bengs? Really? The idea is also similar to eastern philosophy of all things and minds being interconnected as One and to Sheldrakes 'morphic resonance'. Try The Holographic Universe by Talbot...andThe 8th Tower by Keel.
The energy is us and everything else that is. It's all energy/matter.
Not sure about your pattern and random comment. At times it seems random and at other times seems to fit a pattern according to data from Vallee et al. See Messengers, Dimensions, Invisible College.
The GCP is interesting but it's too early to tell what it's telling us.
Also try The Grand Illusion by Little and Daimonic Reality by Harpur.
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I did a bit of reading on Jung last night and I can appreciate archetypes as part of an inherit matrix that our unconscious projects to makes sense of our experiences. Similar to animals instincts. I wasn't aware that Jung was into dream symbols as expressions of archetypes. Not sure what to make of the collective unconscious and iChing, as you said it is part of eastern philisophy and I live in a western culture, that's why it seems strange. I can accept that perhaps it exists but I can't grasp how it can create something outside the mind.

Was there some synchonicity involved when Antri posted that video clip of the Beastie Boys unaware that a band member had just died, or merely coincidence? Had the collective unconscious prompted Antri the seek out that old video clip? That sort of thing I can accept but not creating a sighting that multiple witnesses see, ie. mass hallucination. I don't believe they can occur. If everything is just energy and matter that sounds like materialism and that contradicts a collective unconscious. If one does accept a creative collective unconscious fueled by energy and matter then one has to wonder are we it? Are we humans the ultimate creators of our reality or are there other intelligences involved? This I think falls under the Holographic Universe theory. This idea scares me, I need a higher power.

Actually, holographic universe theory is the extreme of magical thinking, imo.

Thanks for all those book references, I think I may have read Daimonic Reality, I can't keep track of my books, they are all over the place. I have read all those Vallee books- perhaps time for a re-read. I will look into the 8th Tower, haven't heard of that before.
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If the universe is a hologram, why do people need glasses?
A better question is how can you be two places at once when you are not anywhere at all?

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http://www.amazon.com/The-Eighth-Tow.../dp/0451074602
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http://www.4shared.com/office/Y2oNCA...c_questio.html

Couldn't find an actual review or summary but imo it's a must read by those who want to look at alternate ideas about ufos and the paranormal.
I've read it 3 times.
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