The Honor In Murdering Girls

[Carol Nistri]

Originally Posted by dejarma

I disagree....... As I've always said: for every one bad sickening thing we hear about, there's tens of thousands of nice caring human acts happening every day... It's just we never hear of them. Most people on this planet want to live in peace & raise their children to show respect to others...
Peace>>>> There's tons of it around, if we're allowed to see it via the mediaBut we only ever hear of the crap!! That's the problem & IMO gives us all false info about the world around us!

dej...

Clap clap clap,will someone check to see if thats really dej...

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

Clap clap clap,will someone check to see if thats really dej...

Yeah....he's usually more negative......
but I agree with him on this one in that the good outweighs the bad for the most part....but perhaps not by that much.

I suppose one could make the atheist argument that religion is the main reason for these extreme cultural positions but then the Soveit atheists weren't too nice to their fellow man either.

[Miss Deetective]

Don't know about you guys, but I sure don't want to wear rose colored glasses all the time!!
Even if we hear about 99 wonderful people doing kind things.....the fact that just one horrific crime was committed, does not lessen that crime nor does it negate its impact, imo.
We should not be burying our heads in the sand. Bad things can, and do, happen to good people all over the globe.
The media has always been more about reporting the negative than the positive. And there never seems to be a shortage of negative things.

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by Miss Deetective

Don't know about you guys, but I sure don't want to wear rose colored glasses all the time!!
Even if we hear about 99 wonderful people doing kind things.....the fact that just one horrific crime was committed, does not lessen that crime nor does it negate its impact, imo.
We should not be burying our heads in the sand. Bad things can, and do, happen to good people all over the globe.
The media has always been more about reporting the negative than the positive. And there never seems to be a shortage of negative things.

I agree, MD, and like I tried to convey, in some of the most traditional lands (parts of Kurdish territory within Iraq, Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and many others) naturally about half of residents HAVE LOWER STATUS because they're female, and get subjected to terrifying injustice and violence (canings and execution by religious courts, genital mutilation, honor killing, spousal maiming, punishments for getting raped whatever ). Maybe from dejarma's point of view, the News is too negative. But I expect many long-suffering women in backward areas to feel overlooked, underreported by the media, and if in Afghanistan/Iraq definitely not liberated by Americans and the west.


orangekea

[BSMWilliams]

Originally Posted by orangekea

I agree, MD, and like I tried to convey, in some of the most traditional lands (parts of Kurdish territory within Iraq, Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and many others) naturally about half of residents HAVE LOWER STATUS because they're female, and get subjected to terrifying injustice and violence (canings and execution by religious courts, genital mutilation, honor killing, spousal maiming, punishments for getting raped whatever ). Maybe from dejarma's point of view, the News is too negative. But I expect many long-suffering women in backward areas to feel overlooked, underreported by the media, and if in Afghanistan/Iraq definitely not liberated by Americans and the west.


orangekea

You sound like you think Afghanistan and Iraq were invaded to emancipate the people rather than take control of the oil/mineral wealth,tell me i'm mistaken.

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by BSMWilliams

You sound like you think Afghanistan and Iraq were invaded to emancipate the people rather than take control of the oil/mineral wealth,tell me i'm mistaken.

No, I'm stating as a matter of fact that, regardless of the motives of western 'liberators', about half of those peoples have not been emancipated.

[dejarma]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Yeah....he's usually more negative......

This is a ufo forum, not a life/ morality forum! I'm only negative regarding the ufo/alien enigma, nothing more, because personally I think this phenomena is full of sh!te, have done for a long time; a small handful of privileged individuals in a position to feed us bull-sh!te for the soul purpose of earning money>> books/DVDs/ TV shows/ lectures etc who've been fueling this rubbish for years!!!
I hope I'm wrong, I really do... I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong regarding alien (or an unknown life force, however one wishes to class it) existence on this planet. That's why I'm here; in hope of someone saying something/ showing me something that will change my mind-- & not to discuss human behaviour/ morality per say.....

dej...

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by dejarma

This is a ufo forum, not a life/ morality forum! I'm only negative regarding the ufo/alien enigma, nothing more, because personally I think this phenomena is full of sh!te, have done for a long time; a small handful of privileged individuals in a position to feed us bull-sh!te for the soul purpose of earning money>> books/DVDs/ TV shows/ lectures etc who've been fueling this rubbish for years!!!
I hope I'm wrong, I really do... I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong regarding alien (or an unknown life force, however one wishes to class it) existence on this planet. That's why I'm here; in hope of someone saying something/ showing me something that will change my mind-- & not to discuss human behaviour/ morality per say.....

dej...

After reading that post, who'd even want to show you anything alien? Personally I think you are in desperate need of a good bowel movement !


orangekea

[dejarma]

Originally Posted by orangekea

After reading that post, who'd even want to show you anything alien? Personally I think you are in desperate need of a good bowel movement !


orangekea

Want has nothing to do with it!!!! You can't.. No one can because there aint nuffin there!!! If there was then places like this wouldn't exist! 60-70 YEARS of modern ufology & it's still a <want> it's still a phenomenon even after thousands upon thousands of hours of study by so called experts!! The truth is staring you in the face yet your fantasy world does not allow you to see the bleeding obvious!! I envy you in a way

dej...

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Yeah....he's usually more negative......
but I agree with him on this one in that the good outweighs the bad for the most part....but perhaps not by that much.

I suppose one could make the atheist argument that religion is the main reason for these extreme cultural positions but then the Soveit atheists weren't too nice to their fellow man either.

Like Miss D says, all the good done by 99 decent folk, can be undone by one murderous criminal, especially if you're the victim.

One problem with traditionalist Islam is that it has held on to some pretty negative ideas and attitudes towards women. Lot of punishment for sin in there...


orangekea