The Bob Lazar Fraud

[starman2003]

Originally Posted by Nimue

I think that you and I have different perspectives, Dr. Wu. 200 years ago, we were still driving the cart to town for supplies and lighting the candles or lantern to pierce the darkness. Furthermore, considering the centuries before the industrial age of the 19th century, things get darker and harder for people.

Depends on the specific period. Things wren't that bad at the height of the Pax Romana.

I'm thankful to the Industrial age, we prospered in it, flourished really. The playing field shifted however, with our financial system and cracking the atom. Suddenly, their is a UFO wave that is reported upon all around the world. It isn't that they haven't been seen before, throughout the age they have been seen. But the amounts of sightings by pilots and military personal is impressive! Not to even mention that tensions were already high with the Cold War possibilities draped over the shoulders of every one.

After the saucers became embroiled into our culture (someday fated to be myth I imagine) things started advancing in certain area's at an accelerated rate. The breakthroughs in medical technology is quite amazing in my estimation. From the equipment we use, to the medicine we create. It's an impressive leap forward in my opinion. As is the technological breakthroughs in physics, biochemistry, aircraft design, electronics and the list can go on and on.

Progress is logarithmic. UFOs didn't cause it but may have come here partly to observe the acceleration.

[Wilhelm]

Originally Posted by starman2003

Progress is logarithmic. UFOs didn't cause it but may have come here partly to observe the acceleration.

We haven't managed to get anything good from all those crashed saucers you talk about?

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Nimue

I think that you and I have different perspectives, Dr. Wu. 200 years ago, we were still driving the cart to town for supplies and lighting the candles or lantern to pierce the darkness. Furthermore, considering the centuries before the industrial age of the 19th century, things get darker and harder for people.

I'm thankful to the Industrial age, we prospered in it, flourished really. The playing field shifted however, with our financial system and cracking the atom. Suddenly, their is a UFO wave that is reported upon all around the world. It isn't that they haven't been seen before, throughout the age they have been seen. But the amounts of sightings by pilots and military personal is impressive! Not to even mention that tensions were already high with the Cold War possibilities draped over the shoulders of every one.

After the saucers became embroiled into our culture (someday fated to be myth I imagine) things started advancing in certain area's at an accelerated rate. The breakthroughs in medical technology is quite amazing in my estimation. From the equipment we use, to the medicine we create. It's an impressive leap forward in my opinion. As is the technological breakthroughs in physics, biochemistry, aircraft design, electronics and the list can go on and on.

I just finished reading your link about accelerated growth. Hopefully, in new discovery, it will bring us all back into an industrial age.

Blessings Nimue

Interesting post showing your personal beliefs concening ufos in history but none of it really addresses the issues of accelerated human change due to technological change being logarithmic nor is any part of your belief supported by any type of objective evidence or studies.
Your belief in alien influence is completely speculative.

[dejarma]

Originally Posted by Nimue

After the saucers became embroiled into our culture (someday fated to be myth I imagine) things started advancing in certain area's at an accelerated rate. The breakthroughs in medical technology is quite amazing in my estimation. From the equipment we use, to the medicine we create. It's an impressive leap forward in my opinion. As is the technological breakthroughs in physics, biochemistry, aircraft design, electronics and the list can go on and on.

All due to highly intelligent & dedicated humans, not alien tech!! <my opinion of course>

I feel it's kind of insulting to these highly intelligent & dedicated humans when it's suggested that someone/ something else 'could be' responsible for their hard work!! All due respect.......

Peace.

dej...

[Miss Deetective]

Ahhh but look how long it took to go from the invention of the wheel to automobiles and then compare that to how quickly we advanced from Roswell to now. In just a little over 60 years we have gone from airplanes to space shuttles....from computers that took up a whole room to laptops Ipods!!!! Did we suddenly experience a boost in our evolution?????

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Miss Deetective

Ahhh but look how long it took to go from the invention of the wheel to automobiles and then compare that to how quickly we advanced from Roswell to now. In just a little over 60 years we have gone from airplanes to space shuttles....from computers that took up a whole room to laptops Ipods!!!! Did we suddenly experience a boost in our evolution?????

Did you bother to read the link about this..?
Try reading it again. It's a logarithmic change based on change in technology. It's supposed to happen like that.

[Wilhelm]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Did you bother to read the link about this..?
Try reading it again. It's a logarithmic change based on change in technology. It's supposed to happen like that.

The problem, of course, is a false analogy.

Wheel --> Automobile

is not the same as

Airplane --> Space Shuttle

The true analogy would be Wheel --> Automobile = Fire --> Space Shuttle. And then it makes a lot more sense.

[Miss Deetective]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Did you bother to read the link about this..?
Try reading it again. It's a logarithmic change based on change in technology. It's supposed to happen like that.

I don't care how you look at it...I stand by MY timeline.

[dejarma]

Originally Posted by Miss Deetective

Ahhh but look how long it took to go from the invention of the wheel to automobiles and then compare that to how quickly we advanced from Roswell to now. In just a little over 60 years we have gone from airplanes to space shuttles....from computers that took up a whole room to laptops Ipods!!!! Did we suddenly experience a boost in our evolution?????

It's all down to the discovery of electricity IMO....... Once highly intelligent dedicated humans got their heads around this amazing new energy & found ways to utilize this power, it's suddenly mushroomed into to what we have today... A simple logical progression IMO> & nothing to do with aliens..... Though who really knows!?!? Well, to be honest I think we all would by now if it had some validity> after 70 years

dej...

[Miss Deetective]

Originally Posted by dejarma

It's all down to the discovery of electricity IMO....... Once highly intelligent dedicated humans got their heads around this amazing new energy & found ways to utilize this power, it's suddenly mushroomed into to what we have today... A simple logical progression IMO> & nothing to do with aliens..... Though who really knows!?!? Well, to be honest I think we all would by now if it had some validity> after 70 years

dej...

Yes but good ole Ben Franklin discovered that and see how long THAT took to get us to where we are today!!!