Interesting if Genuine

[OzyMandias]

The Bragalia Files: ROSWELL OFFICER SPEAKS FROM THE GRAVE: TAPED CONFESSION OF ET RECOVERY REVEALED

[Carol Nistri]

IF this is for real and IF the government had a real alien body then why oh why would they now have Bigelow recieve any and all ufo sightings,I should think that having an alien body would be all the proof they need that ufos are real their here and perhaps all other stories are true.Like abductions for instance.Unless their tired chasing their tails on all of this but that doesnt sound right.

[Antrikshaadmi]

Just because he claims to have seen bodies doesn't mean they weren't robots. So when the Air Force says aliens didn't crash at Roswell it may technically be telling the truth.

[shrinker]

It is SO difficult to believe anything anyone says, given the amount of disinformation, misinformation and trash information out there. That is why this situation cries out for a serious scientific approach. For example, notarized documents are not sworn statements. Notorizing just means the person who signed it is who he/she claims to be. Anyone can say anything and have it notorized--doesn't make it real or the truth.

Please, y'all, don't misconstrue what I am saying. I believe something is going on, something real, physical, observable and there are many creditable witnesses to these phenomena. I tend to cautiously lean toward the ETH, in general, (pace Dr. Wu) though I grant that there are other possibilities--and opinions--so I try to keep an open mind. That said, I hope the "temperature" on some of these discussions drops a bit.

[OzyMandias]

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

IF this is for real and IF the government had a real alien body then why oh why would they now have Bigelow recieve any and all ufo sightings,I should think that having an alien body would be all the proof they need that ufos are real their here and perhaps all other stories are true.Like abductions for instance.Unless their tired chasing their tails on all of this but that doesnt sound right.

yeah if real the area 51 rumours from Lazar could also be credible as he has said some vehicle(s) he saw were recovered from roswell I believe. In fact it would cause a second look at most of the info that is related or a "follow on" to roswell.

[Carol Nistri]

Originally Posted by Antrikshaadmi

Just because he claims to have seen bodies doesn't mean they weren't robots. So when the Air Force says aliens didn't crash at Roswell it may technically be telling the truth.

Oh now thats a novel thought Antri,they could be robots therefore the goverment saying there were no aliens at Roswell isnt necessairly a lie,very good.

[Carol Nistri]

When my husband and myself went to Rachel Nev.we saw Lazars name and his picture on one of the walls,somehow this guy never was fully believed,shrugs,who knows.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by shrinker

It is SO difficult to believe anything anyone says, given the amount of disinformation, misinformation and trash information out there. That is why this situation cries out for a serious scientific approach. For example, notarized documents are not sworn statements. Notorizing just means the person who signed it is who he/she claims to be. Anyone can say anything and have it notorized--doesn't make it real or the truth.

Please, y'all, don't misconstrue what I am saying. I believe something is going on, something real, physical, observable and there are many creditable witnesses to these phenomena. I tend to cautiously lean toward the ETH, in general, (pace Dr. Wu) though I grant that there are other possibilities--and opinions--so I try to keep an open mind. That said, I hope the "temperature" on some of these discussions drops a bit.

I actually agree with you shrinker....far too much disinformation, misinformation, confusion, and arguing and imo most is brought about by those who are on the believing side whenever their pro ETH position is questioned. I've been on many ufo boards and while the skeptics can get nasty sometimes the problem is that the believers will make truth statements about ufos as if they are the truth and of course they are not since no one really knows the answer. This leads to the skeptics mocking the believers and on and on.
Those that have belief positions should be using the IMO tag more often but they rarely do.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by OzyMandias

yeah if real the area 51 rumours from Lazar could also be credible as he has said some vehicle(s) he saw were recovered from roswell I believe. In fact it would cause a second look at most of the info that is related or a "follow on" to roswell.

Oz,
I wouldn't palce any faith in the things Lazar has said over the years. You can drive a truck through the holes in most of his statements.

One of the biggest for me was in several interviews he did back in the day. He claimed to have taken element 115 ( a half life of seconds or less,,) , which allegedly powered the alien ufos, out of area 51 when he left. Yet he refused to show it to several investigators like Knapp and Vallee when they asked to see it...and he became evasive and essentially changed the subject.
There are many other things like his education and work claims which were also a sham.
My thought is that this guy is a jokester who was 'hired' by someone in the govt and then used him as a disinfo plant. I think he was shown some 'things', fired, and then put out there to confuse the issue.

[Antrikshaadmi]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

One of the biggest for me was in several interviews he did back in the day. He claimed to have taken element 115 ( a half life of seconds or less,,) , which allegedly powered the alien ufos, out of area 51 when he left. Yet he refused to show it to several investigators like Knapp and Vallee when they asked to see it...and he became evasive and essentially changed the subject.
There are many other things like his education and work claims which were also a sham.

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