Whats your opinion or idea?

[Carol Nistri]

In regards to abductions,are they real? Are the people claiming abduction just messing with the ufo community? Why is it we resist this part of the enigma? Is it that we dont want to think benevolent beings could do something like this? Could you accept aliens knowing without a doubt they can and do abduct people for reasons known only to them?

[Skeptical]

I think they are false memories, lucid dreams, hypnopompic or hypnogogic delusions or some combination of these - all produced in the mind of the experiencer. I am not saying that this is a mental aberration in any way - I just think abduction episodes are the result of some undocumented (or at least poorly understood) brain process and they:

1. have no basis in objective reality and
2. have no real bearing on the UFO phenomenon.

How's that for stirring the pot?

S

[Miss Deetective]

I think the majority of so called alien abductions....are either people who are suffering from something else...sleep paralysis or lucid dreams perhaps.....or they are jumping on the bandwagon for attention or they are making it all up.
I do think that a very small percentage are genuine abductions and I don't believe they happen all that often.
If it is totally out of our control...then we have no choice but to accept it.

[Carol Nistri]

If abductions arent real Dee,then why do you think Aliens are here at all?

[Carol Nistri]

Originally Posted by Skeptical

I think they are false memories, lucid dreams, hypnopompic or hypnogogic delusions or some combination of these - all produced in the mind of the experiencer. I am not saying that this is a mental aberration in any way - I just think abduction episodes are the result of some undocumented (or at least poorly understood) brain process and they:

1. have no basis in objective reality and
2. have no real bearing on the UFO phenomenon.

How's that for stirring the pot?

S

really Skep,thats interesting,I cant help but feel something has happend to these people that John Mack found sound of limb and wind.They insist this really happend to them and John Mack had each and every one of them tested for mental stability and found them to be just that,stable.

[Miss Deetective]

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

If abductions arent real Dee,then why do you think Aliens are here at all?

I think a small percentage of them ARE real, Carol.
I think they are monitoring us because they manipulated our DNA and that makes us some kind of experiment perhaps.
For all we really know...we might have exterminated ourselves before we had a chance to evolve on our own!!! We could also still be living in caves and wearing animal skins!!!!.....jk!! Bur our evolution certainly could have been much slower if they had NOT intervened.
Who knows....maybe that will be our saving grace someday!!!!

I think there is enough testimony to suggest it is happening, the fire in the sky case is a good example, of the sort of testimony i refer to (whether or not its true is always going to be debatable)
In addition we do it ourselves, to the lessor species here, we dont give a second thought to abductiong other bioforms and experimenting on them, we also use deliberate deception as a means of facilitating this.
Its all speculation, some say none, some say a few, some say many, and some even say everyone gets abducted at least 3 times in their lives.

If time travel is involved (and they often show images of the future, and earths destruction) then the answer may be even more convoluted.
the trend seems to be abduction while young, tapering off as you get older, this makes sense if you are collecting genetic samples, since our genes get damaged as we get older.
If time travel is part of the scenario, its even possible that one of the greys abducting someone is actually themself, from a point "uptime" after their death, nipping back to harvest the necessary genetic samples to build a new clone vessel for themselves, using your own DNA to create a clone body makes sense, perhaps the conciousness rejects tissue thats not from its original bioform

[captainlockheed]

sleep paralysis does not explain daytime cases, from moving vehicles etc.

I will accept that as an explanation for my own sanity but it just does not cover the whole scenario much like the whole ufo situation

[dejarma]

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

Are the people claiming abduction just messing with the ufo community?

I feel in some cases it's sleep paralysis but the majority of people who make claims like this are living in a fantasy world (a form of escape from the problems of life) that becomes so real to them after a while they actually believe it! Plus it's more than likely to be these kind of individuals who desperately seek acclaim & celebrity (they will get it within a select community anyway) due to lack of any skills; normally social> without any need of proof what so ever! Easy!> combined this with sleep paralysis & we will get a more in depth heavy duty claim!!
& of course there are the few that probably just lie for reasons only known to them> financial in one way or another no doubt!

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

Why is it we resist this part of the enigma?

who's we?

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

Is it that we dont want to think benevolent beings could do something like this? Could you accept aliens knowing without a doubt they can and do abduct people for reasons known only to them?

could I accept them as friends or could I accept their existence? As friends: no of course not!!! If knew without a doubt they can and do abduct people then by default I've already accepted their existence, haven't I????

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

In regards to abductions,are they real?

so to answer your main question: no.....

[dejarma]

Originally Posted by captainlockheed

sleep paralysis does not explain daytime cases, from moving vehicles etc.

Doesn't it?? Have you ever heard of night work? Let me explain: many people on planet earth go to work 'at night'... Therefore they sleep 'during the day' people fall asleep all the time during the day; & in moving vehicles too!

PS.. in what case did someone claim to have been abducted from a moving vehicle? just out of interest........