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Old 7th October 2011   #661
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The increasing reports of sightings of things considered as UFO and the said to be as actual encounters with such together with some solid proofs might really be the reasons why lots of individuals and even groups of people are insisting that there such UFO's that exist in this world. In fact, the UFO community has been yelling "government cover-up" for decades now. However, a new White House program has given them the possibility to petition the administration for data and now, UFO believers petition the White House for information on the matter. A petition has been filed and has gathered more than the requisite number of signatures.
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Hard to define when the input data might be corrupted by: misleading human perception, possible military projects, natural phenomena that its still unexplained or hasnt been discovered. We are still trying to understand how the universe works, UFO might be unexplained phenomena, although, if they were driven by an intelligence, i find hard to believe they are playing seek and hide with humanity; they've already been here long time ago and some of our leaders could be awared of that fact.
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I recommend a book tittled SOVIET UFO. The former soviet union appears to have a vast archive related to UFO events and its rulers really were attracted to know what they were for sure. They try to give a total scientific explanation to this phenomena, so of them could be explained, others could not.
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The increasing reports of sightings of things considered as UFO and the said to be as actual encounters with such together with some solid proofs might really be the reasons why lots of individuals and even groups of people are insisting that there such UFO's that exist in this world. In fact, the UFO community has been yelling "government cover-up" for decades now. However, a new White House program has given them the possibility to petition the administration for data and now, UFO believers petition the White House for information on the matter. A petition has been filed and has gathered more than the requisite number of signatures.
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Add it to the list of "petitions", FOIA requests, whistleblower expose's, "leaks from those in the know", and the other mountains of such disclosure activities.

I still remember Greer's first popularizing of the "Disclosure" genre of paranormal activities, and remember even more clearly pointing out from the beginning the absurdity of putting support behind a guy who once made money taking people out into the hills to shine flashlights at satellites and called them "Ufo's".

And yet enthusiastically support him they did, and after every "shocking revelation", after every "blow the lid off" release, and even after reams of once classified data is actually released, when no data is presented to support belief, it is immediately rejected that there could simply be nothing to support the belief.

Despite knowing the human ability to create and innovate, the past history of human imagination and culpability, unless something is provided to support the belief, anything less will be rejected.

I have spent many years watching some of the very members of this forum go from year to year, never the wiser despite the endless stream of information provided to them. Year after year, the giant puzzle, albeit one of the easiest ever concieved, sits in front of them unsolved. All they merely need do is connect the dots.

And instead they choose to try coloring it with an orange crayon
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Add it to the list of "petitions", FOIA requests, whistleblower expose's, "leaks from those in the know", and the other mountains of such disclosure activities.

I still remember Greer's first popularizing of the "Disclosure" genre of paranormal activities, and remember even more clearly pointing out from the beginning the absurdity of putting support behind a guy who once made money taking people out into the hills to shine flashlights at satellites and called them "Ufo's".

And yet enthusiastically support him they did, and after every "shocking revelation", after every "blow the lid off" release, and even after reams of once classified data is actually released, when no data is presented to support belief, it is immediately rejected that there could simply be nothing to support the belief.

Despite knowing the human ability to create and innovate, the past history of human imagination and culpability, unless something is provided to support the belief, anything less will be rejected.

I have spent many years watching some of the very members of this forum go from year to year, never the wiser despite the endless stream of information provided to them. Year after year, the giant puzzle, albeit one of the easiest ever concieved, sits in front of them unsolved. All they merely need do is connect the dots.

And instead they choose to try coloring it with an orange crayon
So what is your point? Are you suggesting this enigma is kept alive by those who are in a privileged position to earn money out of it?
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Add it to the list of "petitions", FOIA requests, whistleblower expose's, "leaks from those in the know", and the other mountains of such disclosure activities.

I still remember Greer's first popularizing of the "Disclosure" genre of paranormal activities, and remember even more clearly pointing out from the beginning the absurdity of putting support behind a guy who once made money taking people out into the hills to shine flashlights at satellites and called them "Ufo's".

And yet enthusiastically support him they did, and after every "shocking revelation", after every "blow the lid off" release, and even after reams of once classified data is actually released, when no data is presented to support belief, it is immediately rejected that there could simply be nothing to support the belief.

Despite knowing the human ability to create and innovate, the past history of human imagination and culpability, unless something is provided to support the belief, anything less will be rejected.

I have spent many years watching some of the very members of this forum go from year to year, never the wiser despite the endless stream of information provided to them. Year after year, the giant puzzle, albeit one of the easiest ever concieved, sits in front of them unsolved. All they merely need do is connect the dots.

And instead they choose to try coloring it with an orange crayon
My doctors only allow me crayons to color with, Paul68! But I agree about most, especially 'official' disclosure being incredulous. How do you feel about the info disseminated by Stanton Friedman and the late John Mack? It's limited in scope, yet it comes across as truthful and most revealing to me.


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So what is your point? Are you suggesting this enigma is kept alive by those who are in a privileged position to earn money out of it?
Nope. Those are just the opportunists.

I'm not suggesting anything.

I'm saying the only thing keeping this an "enigma", "phenomena", "mystery", is the unwillingness of those who believe to accept the painfully obvious answers.
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I'm saying the only thing keeping this an "enigma", "phenomena", "mystery", is the unwillingness of those who believe to accept the painfully obvious answers.
Oh please great all knowing enlightened one tell us the real truth....so we may also connect the dots with our orange crayons and worship at the altar of material reductionism.


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I'm saying the only thing keeping this an "enigma", "phenomena", "mystery", is the unwillingness of those who believe to accept the painfully obvious answers.

It would help, no doubt, if the phenomenon would just stay put long enough for its exact nature to be ascertained, conclusively.
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