The Airbus that ran into a cloud

[orangekea]

Search and rescue aircraft believed to have found debris and an immense fuel slick consistent with Air France 447 ditching into the waves in more or less one piece on June 1st 2009.




FLASH IN THE SKY



"As several ships trawled the crash site in the Atlantic, Brazil's defense minister said a 20-kilometer (12-mile) oil slick near where the plane, en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, went down indicated it probably did not break up until it hit the water.
If true, that would rule out an in-flight explosion as the cause of the crash of Air France Flight 447, Defense Minister Nelson Jobim told reporters.

However, both pilots of an Air Comet flight from Lima to Lisbon sent a written report on the bright flash they said they saw to Air France, Airbus and the Spanish civil aviation authority, the airline told CNN.
"Suddenly, we saw in the distance a strong and intense flash of white light, which followed a descending and vertical trajectory and which broke up in six seconds," the captain wrote.
Air Comet declined to identify the pilot's name, but said he waited until landing to inform Air Comet management about what he saw. Air Comet then informed Spanish civil aviation authorities. The Air Comet co-pilot, and a passenger aboard the same flight, also saw the light."
Source



In an unexpected turn of information, the multiple witness observation of an intense over water flash, that fell and broke up to the sea surface in 6 seconds, indicates Air France 447 crashed due to a mid-air explosion.

For a brief moment, it was claimed the seas off Brazil were floating with debris and an immense fuel slick consistent with the plane ditching into the waves in more or less one piece. On closer inspection it has emerged the debris spotted does not come from the Air France 447 flight.





Air France 447 sent an automated electronic message indicating it was entering thick black clouds.




DARK STORM



"The missing plane sent a number of electronic messages before disappearing off radar. According to Air France, the plane first sent a message saying it was entering thick black clouds, which are normally associated with lightning and high winds. According to U.S. transportation experts these conditions are not uncommon off the Brazil coast.

Ten minutes later automatic messages were sent indicating that the autopilot had been disengaged and that a main computer on the plane was switched to alternative power, signaling electric failure.

Next, according to the messages, stabilization controls were damaged, the pilots could no longer see information like altitude or even speed (which could corroborate French testimony) and an alarm sounded, indicating the situation was getting much, much worse.

The flurry of messages ended with one indicating a loss of air pressure throughout the A330 and mass electrical failure.
The plane then crashed."
Source



The plane's onboard computer systems appear to have received radar data warning it was entering a region with the consistency of a dense storm system, basically it ran into a thundercloud.





A Comet Air pilot observed a mid-air explosion, fall and breakup, in clear nightskies.




The weird part here is that airline pilots will monitor major storm-systems in their flightpath, and SEE and fly around them! Did the Air France crew 'overlook' thick black storm clouds, unexpectedly running into extreme weather unawares?

The written report from a Comet Air pilot, backed up by a passenger witness, indicates a mid-air explosion, fall and breakup, IN CLEAR NIGHT SKIES. They did not visually observe a blacked out storm horizon, instead had a clear view of the crash from miles away.

Speculatively, Air France 447 flew into an object that is classified by radar as a thick cloud, but is not seen by the naked eye. Whatever they collided with, appeared to them and the distant witnesses as empty sky!





The plane's onboard computer systems warned it was entering a dense storm system, basically it ran into a thundercloud.




One possible, although at first glance BIZARRE, scenario for the June 1st vanishing of Air France 447 is the french Airbus A-330 running into an Unidentified Flying Object camouflaging itself as a stormy weather system. The pilot, seeing its immediate proximity on radar, decided it was too late to go around it and on entering the apparent turbulence, the passengerplane 'bounced' off whatever weird energized mass was hiding inside.

[orangekea]

AF 447 Airbus A-330 vanishing on June 1st 2009 may have had a run-in with an Unidentified Flying Object camouflaging itself as a stormy weather system.




DEATH OF AN ELECTRONIC MIND



“Flight data messages provided by an Air France source show the precise chronology of events of flight AF 447 before it plummeted into the sea 400 miles off Brazil on Monday, a newspaper reported. These indicate that the pilot reported hitting tropical turbulence at 3 a.m. (Brazilian Standard Time), shortly before reaching Senegalese airspace. It said the plane had passed through tall, dense cumulonimbus thunderclouds.

At 3.10 am, the messages show the pilot was presented with a series of major failures over a four-minute period before catastrophe struck, according to automatic data signals cited by the Sao Paulo newspaper, le Jornal da Tarde.

At this time, the automatic pilot was disconnected - either by the pilot or by the plane's inbuilt security system, which flips to manual after detecting a serious error.

It is unclear whether the pilot wanted to manually change course to avoid a dangerous cloud zone - an extremely difficult manoeuvre at such high altitude.

At the same moment, another message indicates that the "fly-by-wire" electronic flight system which controls the wing and tail flaps shifted to "alternative law" - an emergency backup system engaged after multiple electricity failures.

This system enables the plane to continue functioning on minimum energy but reduces flight stability. An alarm would have sounded to alert the cabin crew to this.

Two minutes later, another message indicates that two essential computers providing vital information on altitude, speed and flight direction ceased functioning correctly.

Two new messages at 3.13 am report electricity breakdowns in the principal and auxiliary flight computers.

At 3.14 am, a final message reads "cabin in vertical speed", suggesting a sudden loss of cabin pressure, either the cause or the consequence of the plane breaking up in mid-air.”
Source



Real experts have been poring over the raw data, while I'm just a layperson who reads the papers. But it does emerge something unprecedented seems to have happened to AF 447. At 03.00 hrs. local time the Air France captain did report in to say he was entering a huge cloud system with tropical weather. No more radio traffic is published. At 03.10 a terrible sequence of automated electronic messages, the airplane itself communicating its own death, shows the automatic pilot fails, urgently turning over the controls to the human crew.

At the same time the 'fly-by-wire' system loses electrical power, switching to an emergency back-up system providing only reduced flight stability. The cabin at this time would be filled with deafening alarms.

At 03.12 hrs. the crew loses its altitude, speed and flight direction displays, as discrete computers providing this info break down.

All flight computers, basically the plane's 'mind' assisting the pilot to maintain control, break down at 03.13.

At 03.14 the last electronic message indicates complete loss of cabin pressure, consistent with the plane losing its structural integrity: exploding/breaking to pieces.



The Air France 447 Airbus ran into an unknown object or aircraft that carries its own pocket of anti-gravity/space vacuum/storm weather, and simply bounced off it.




BLOW OUT



"...it didn't break up in the air. Instead, at some point it seems the crew lost control of this state-of-the-art, highly-automated aircraft in unknown circumstances. And it then followed what must have been a horrific trajectory down to the ocean nearly seven miles below which it finally struck belly-first, crushing internal structures..."
French Investigator Alain Bouillard
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The latest wrinkle in the investigation into the Air France 447 crash, June 1 2009, indicates an intact belly flop onto the ocean's surface, as the most likely cause for the plane's breakup. A mid-air break up appears to have been rejected at this point.

The timeline for this plane's last moments in flight becomes very weird. 03.00 pilot radios he's entering storm clouds. Then for nearly 15 minutes, only 24 automated messages show the plane's flight systems, electrical systems and computers cease to function, necessitating the pilot to take manual control.

At 03.14 all cabin pressure is lost, explosively, yet the passengerjet has not broken up, according to Alain Bouillard. In addition, an Air Comet pilot from miles away sees a mid-air explosion and rapid 6 second descent of AF 447 down to the water. This straight-down descent combined with hitting the surface bellyflop-style, indicates that at the same instant cabin pressure blew out, the plane lost all lift and forward momentum.

I'm gonna think so far out of the box here, I'll end up putting us into the vacuum of space. Literally. The most logical explanation here seems the AF 447 Airbus collided with a bubble of extra-ordinary meteorological conditions. Something unknown with enough energy to stop the airplane in mid-air, paired with a vacuum that abruptly sucked out the pressurized air though every weaker point in the hull. Zero lift was available to the wings. This is consistent with the explosive event, and sudden downward trajectory seen by the witnesses.

It makes sense to me, that AF 447 ran into an unknown object or aircraft that carries its own pocket of anti-gravity/space vacuum/storm weather, and simply bounced off it...



INTO THE DEEP BLUE SEA



"Nearly two years after an Air France plane mysteriously fell out of the sky, killing 228 people, the bulk of the wreckage has been found with bodies still aboard, French officials said Monday..."
'...The debris is dispersed over "quite a compact area" of about 600 meters by 200 meters (1,960 feet by about 650 feet), he said.
All the wreckage will be brought to the surface and sent to France for study, said Jean-Paul Troadec, head of the French air accident investigation agency, the Bureau d'Enquêtes et d'Analyses, or BEA.
"We want to know what happened in this accident, most particularly so it never happens again," he said...'
Source CNN by Niki Cook



As commented by Alain Bouillard, in charge of recovering both plane parts, including the main fuselage and two engines off the ocean floor and some 178 missing remains of passengers aboard flight 447. Missed to immense frustration of the investigators are the so called 'black' (actually bright orange) boxes, causing any theoretical cause of the June 1 2009 crash to be shrouded in mystery still.

The missing black=orange flight recorders are a total migraine to the investigators. If I understand the reporting correctly, first a debris field floating in fuel/oil slick was target of the rescue/recovery operation, including a search for survivors/fatalities/black boxes. Nothing relevant was found, because this debris was unrelated to the crashed Airbus. Then a second location was investigated, and part of wreckage plus a number of passenger remains recovered. Now it turns out both locations were wrong, and this recent third site yielded engines, main fuselage and presumably the missing dead.

Perhaps just a series of unfortunate mistakes. OR the first debris fields were deliberate misdirection, allowing French subs, recovery ships and robotic submersibles to locate the blackbox/flight recorders within days after the crash. How did they accurately know where to look? The plane sent out multiple automated radio messages picked up by military/civilian/satellite receiving stations, allowing for tracking last known trajectory. Folks with nation state resources, if THEY REALLY REALLY wanted to, could have found the true crash site, the fuselage and the active/emitting flight recorders while other searchers spun their wheels at the false sites.


Why take the flight recorders out of play?


Because even if they merely confirmed the basic information we have today (automated messages + witness reports indicating mid-air flash followed by straight down fall), this would be more than 'mystery'. For any airplane, any OBJECT, in flight to abruptly lose all momentum and drop, you need another force/massive object to make it stop. Lightning is not enough. Clouds lack the mass. Nobody over there is claiming to be one aircraft or missile short. So what on earth (or off it!) was travelling in that stormcloud...?





The skies as seen (my reconstruction) by the Spanish eyewitnesses to the Air France 447 crash, with a view of the ocean on a clear night.




In case you've never come across the crash story my theory has been the Air France Airbus A330 suffered a mid-air collision with an Unidentified Flying Object. If correct, I'd predict this a rare, but not unique occurrance.



orangekea

[dr wu23]

It is simply amazing that some people always seem to need to bring ufos into unusual crashes.

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

It is simply amazing that some people always seem to need to bring ufos into unusual crashes.

You actually sound as if personally aquainted with such people, dr wu23! I'm not one of them: I bring UFOs into unusual crashes extremely rarely, and only if there's evidence of mid-air object collision, AND NO OBJECT (as yet) to account for it.

Thanks for reading a sizeable topic!


orangekea

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by orangekea

You actually sound as if personally aquainted with such people, dr wu23! I'm not one of them: I bring UFOs into unusual crashes extremely rarely, and only if there's evidence of mid-air object collision, AND NO OBJECT (as yet) to account for it.

Thanks for reading a sizeable topic!


orangekea

I only know them from various ufo forums.
Nuff said..?

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

I only know them from various ufo forums.
Nuff said..?

My dear Wu, unless I'm utterly mistaken, I'd say you are known (and active) at 'various ufo forums' yourself.... But I get your meaning, you are referring to fanatical believers.

So, since we're both here, how would you estimate the probability of human airtraffic suffering a catastrofic collision with a flying saucer, 'unknown' aerial phenomenon or UFO?


orangekea

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by orangekea

So, since we're both here, how would you estimate the probability of human airtraffic suffering a catastrofic collision with a flying saucer, 'unknown' aerial phenomenon or UFO?


orangekea

Slim to none unless the so-called advanced aliens are idiots.

[lee934]

I guess it's a possibility, a remote one and I for one would rather believe a million and one other explanations far more mundane than a ufo.

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by lee934

I guess it's a possibility, a remote one and I for one would rather believe a million and one other explanations far more mundane than a ufo.

That is an incredibly strong belief indeed, lee934, since we do not have even that one other explanation yet.


orangekea

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Slim to none unless the so-called advanced aliens are idiots.

Our astronauts and pilots aren't idiots either, and some of the hardware is pretty neat. But accidents happen nevertheless.


orangekea


Edit: ABCNews update