Disclosure 2012

[Carol Nistri]

Oh now your talking Darrell,Dr.Wu is a connoisseur of fine beer.

[starman2003]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Also I disagree that evolution cannot be reversed. Remember that it is "controlled" only by environmental and reproductive success of random generated mutations. Given reversals of environment and the like and evolutionary reversals are quite probable.

I meant broadly speaking. Not even the mass extinctions reversed evolution in the sense of creating a situation where surviving/newer life was less complex than previous/extinct life.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Darrell

It had better be damn good beer!

If we didn't argue about defintitions of beer , we might actually get to the drinking ....

So what is your idea of a really good beer/ale..?

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

If we didn't argue about defintitions of beer , we might actually get to the drinking ....

So what is your idea of a really good beer/ale..?

This will surprise you. I prefer simple basic BECKS beer. I find it has the clean refreshing taste of olympia and the bite of a gulp of pepsi, yet satisfies as a robust hopsy beer. It is a beer that I especially enjoy with the head on (in a mug). And btw, I like their octoberfest version this year. It has very little of the horehound candy after taste that I loath.

When young, I preferred heinekin (sp?), followed by lowenbrau -- though for cost drank mainly pabst and coors. Infrequently I drank more exotic brews like carlsburg dark and san francisco anchor steam beer. BTW, I no longer care much for heinekin since it acquired a soapy after taste and think that lowenbrau has actually improved. Grosch is okay, but again a slightly soapy taste. Molson ale is okay, but it bothers my sinuses afterward.

I do occassionally try some of the micro brewery products that come out of Boston under the sam adams brand. Most are relatively decent and pricey, but I keep returning to BECKS.

Worst beers/ales to me are balantine ale, miller, busch, budwiser, weidamans, ... the list is nearly endless.

So my definition of a good beer: PHYSICAL/GERMAN/REAL/COLD/FRESH/PLENTIFUL (preferably BECKS) with a clean hops after taste.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Darrell

This will surprise you. I prefer simple basic BECKS beer. I find it has the clean refreshing taste of olympia and the bite of a gulp of pepsi, yet satisfies as a robust hopsy beer. It is a beer that I especially enjoy with the head on (in a mug). And btw, I like their octoberfest version this year. It has very little of the horehound candy after taste that I loath.

When young, I preferred heinekin (sp?), followed by lowenbrau -- though for cost drank mainly pabst and coors. Infrequently I drank more exotic brews like carlsburg dark and san francisco anchor steam beer. BTW, I no longer care much for heinekin since it acquired a soapy after taste and think that lowenbrau has actually improved. Grosch is okay, but again a slightly soapy taste. Molson ale is okay, but it bothers my sinuses afterward.

I do occassionally try some of the micro brewery products that come out of Boston under the sam adams brand. Most are relatively decent and pricey, but I keep returning to BECKS.

Worst beers/ales to me are balantine ale, miller, busch, budwiser, weidamans, ... the list is nearly endless.

So my definition of a good beer: PHYSICAL/GERMAN/REAL/COLD/FRESH/PLENTIFUL (preferably BECKS) with a clean hops after taste.

Where to start? There are so many good beers these days.
Like most I began with the typical 'yellow' (lagers and pilsners) beers like Bud, Strohs, Pabst, Coors, Miller..etc. In college I discovered Heineken, Grolsch, Becks, Molson Golden, Bass Ale, then Newcastle. I still drink Newcastle now and then but haven't had a Becks or Molson for sometime but they are both ok. Anchor Steam makes a decent brew but never really liked Grolsch.

These days I drink mostly micro brews since there are so many fantastic ones around: Bells, Rogue, Dogfish, Sierra Nevada, New Belgium, etc. Currently my favorites are by a micro brewery in my local area called Three Floyds. They make several bown ales, stouts, and IPA's that are really interesting. Their Scottish style brown ale called Robert The Bruce is my favorite.
I also like Guinness on occasion and Young's Double Chocolate stout as well as a great black lager called 1554 by New Belgium.
In the end I prefer medium brown ales (or Irish red ales) with malt, and hints of chocolate and caramel but I'll drink any well brewed ale or lager with amber colors.

http://www.3floyds.com/
http://www.3floyds.com/our-beers-2/

cheers.....and bottoms up.

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Where to start? There are so many good beers these days.
Like most I began with the typical 'yellow' (lagers and pilsners) beers like Bud, Strohs, Pabst, Coors, Miller..etc. In college I discovered Heineken, Grolsch, Becks, Molson Golden, Bass Ale, then Newcastle. I still drink Newcastle now and then but haven't had a Becks or Molson for sometime but they are both ok. Anchor Steam makes a decent brew but never really liked Grolsch.

These days I drink mostly micro brews since there are so many fantastic ones around: Bells, Rogue, Dogfish, Sierra Nevada, New Belgium, etc. Currently my favorites are by a micro brewery in my local area called Three Floyds. They make several bown ales, stouts, and IPA's that are really interesting. Their Scottish style brown ale called Robert The Bruce is my favorite.
I also like Guinness on occasion and Young's Double Chocolate stout as well as a great black lager called 1554 by New Belgium.
In the end I prefer medium brown ales (or Irish red ales) with malt, and hints of chocolate and caramel but I'll drink any well brewed ale or lager with amber colors.

http://www.3floyds.com/
http://www.3floyds.com/our-beers-2/

cheers.....and bottoms up.

Uh oh, something in common. I suppose this is a bad time to mention that I was born, raised and educated in the state of Indiana, huh? Next thing you know, we'll be discussing that PURDUE football defeat of Ohio state last weekend. HE HE HE

[dejarma]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Where to start? There are so many good beers these days.
Like most I began with the typical 'yellow' (lagers and pilsners) beers like Bud, Strohs, Pabst, Coors, Miller..etc. In college I discovered Heineken, Grolsch, Becks, Molson Golden, Bass Ale, then Newcastle. I still drink Newcastle now and then but haven't had a Becks or Molson for sometime but they are both ok. Anchor Steam makes a decent brew but never really liked Grolsch.

These days I drink mostly micro brews since there are so many fantastic ones around: Bells, Rogue, Dogfish, Sierra Nevada, New Belgium, etc. Currently my favorites are by a micro brewery in my local area called Three Floyds. They make several bown ales, stouts, and IPA's that are really interesting. Their Scottish style brown ale called Robert The Bruce is my favorite.
I also like Guinness on occasion and Young's Double Chocolate stout as well as a great black lager called 1554 by New Belgium.
In the end I prefer medium brown ales (or Irish red ales) with malt, and hints of chocolate and caramel but I'll drink any well brewed ale or lager with amber colors.

http://www.3floyds.com/
http://www.3floyds.com/our-beers-2/

cheers.....and bottoms up.

what has this got to do with Disclosure 2012 ??? keep on topic like you're always moaning at others to do will ya

[starman2003]

Originally Posted by dejarma

what has this got to do with Disclosure 2012 ??? keep on topic like you're always moaning at others to do will ya

It's not uncommon for people to go off on a tangent. But favorite booze? I never cared for alcohol btw.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by dejarma

what has this got to do with Disclosure 2012 ??? keep on topic like you're always moaning at others to do will ya

Heh..it's beer and that's always on topic.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by starman2003

...But favorite booze? I never cared for alcohol btw.

Oh....well that explains you then.