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[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Sheephogan

I would transfigure to my lycanthrope ego and investigate, but I'm afraid some crazy sumbitch might shoot me..

Well..that's up north of you anyway....but you could always make a field trip for us.

Getting serious for a moment, I would like to ask Dr Vallee what he thinks about the ranch and the way the investigations were carried out.

[Sheephogan]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Well..that's up north of you anyway....but you could always make a field trip for us.

Getting serious for a moment, I would like to ask Dr Vallee what he thinks about the ranch and the way the investigations were carried out.

I can travel pretty fast on 4 legs....

Indeed, it would be very nice and advantageous to have access to these wonderfully insightful and honorable people at least in some social application on the internet.

In my own experience the scene described at Skin-walker Ranch with the collection of data, surveillance and such, always happens to me whenever I set up at anyplace like this. NOTHING, is ever caught or recorded. It consistently sends me rocketing back to internally generated anomalies of the psyche.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Sheephogan

I can travel pretty fast on 4 legs....

Indeed, it would be very nice and advantageous to have access to these wonderfully insightful and honorable people at least in some social application on the internet.

In my own experience the scene described at Skin-walker Ranch with the collection of data, surveillance and such, always happens to me whenever I set up at anyplace like this. NOTHING, is ever caught or recorded. It consistently sends me rocketing back to internally generated anomalies of the psyche.

Yes....if these anomalies are real space time physical events then there is absolutely no reason why they should not show up on video and film.
It does make one want to use a consciousness model rather than a physical event model....but sometimes there are traces.


btw...I'm heading home from the office, it's 5:45 pm, but I'll try to be online later tonight from home after say 9:00 pm ....about 7 pm your time?

[Carol Nistri]

Nice going Will,see that,that cop training has come in handy.

[Carol Nistri]

This is an amazing read.



Breakthrough at Skinwalker Ranch?

Posted by Fatemag On October - 13 - 2011

An investigation into the unexplained incident mutilated cows and vandalized property.

by Robert A. Goerman

October 2011

In UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies, and Realities, author John B. Alexander Ph.D., a former Green Beret commander and developer of weapons at Los Alamos, New Mexico, elaborates upon a mystifying event that we first read about in Hunt for the Skinwalker: Science Confronts the Unexplained at a Remote Ranch in Utah by Colm A. Kelleher Ph.D. and George Knapp.
For readers unfamiliar with the narrative of the so-called “Skinwalker Ranch,” Terry Sherman purchased this 480-acre property near Fort Duchesne, Utah in the summer of 1994 with the intention of starting a cattle ranch business. Terry, his wife Gwen, and their son and daughter, fled the property in May of 1996. A succession of terrifying occurrences on their ranch had left the family anguished and afraid. If I were forced to limit my personal library to a single book about transient anomalies, Hunt for the Skinwalker would be my hands-down choice. Enter the National Institute of Discovery Science (NIDS). Founded in 1995 by real-estate developer and aerospace entrepreneur Robert T. Bigelow, NIDS was established to research and advance scientific study of anomalies.
Bigelow bought the Sherman ranch in 1996 and Colm Kelleher set up shop. George Knapp was the only journalist allowed to personally witness and document the NIDS effort. The NIDS team eventually installed three telephone poles in one of the pastures. Each was topped with a sophisticated package of sensors and a combined total of six standard surveillance cameras. These researchers kept hard copies of the 24/7 time-stamped recordings and monitored them for extraordinary activity. On July 20, 1998, it was observed that the trio of cameras on telephone pole #1 had stopped recording. A cursory inspection revealed that somebody had badly sabotaged this reconnaissance equipment. Wiring was ripped out forcibly. One section of cable was missing and analysis of the remaining cable showed that it had been slashed with a knife. Each set of wires (the video and power feeds) from the three cameras had been separately wrapped in heavy-duty duct tape and then carefully secured to the utility pole with several windings of that same durable binding before entering sturdy PVC tubing (anchored to the pole with U-clamps) and going underground at the base of the pole.
Now the PVC pipe rested twisted and mangled at the foot of the pole and every inch of duct tape was gone. Adhesive residues from the duct tape were unmistakably visible on the dangling wires and pole. Videotapes from the camera array on telephone pole #1 did not reveal perpetrators but disclosed that these three cameras almost simultaneously lost power at 8:30 P.M. on the previous night. Someone on the NIDS research team suddenly realized that one of the cameras on telephone pole #2, about two hundred feet away, was aimed directly at the “scene of the crime.” That recording would undoubtedly expose the identity of the vandals. A mad dash resulted and, sure enough, the available daylight was sufficient for the event to be clearly and duly recorded for all to see. But all that was visible on this tape as it passed that fateful 8:30 P.M. time-stamp was the pristine stillness of the telephone pole and cattle munching peacefully in the pasture beyond. With multiple rounds of digital enhancement of the video, the resolution became good enough to see the tiny red lights on the bottom of each camera lose power at exactly 8:30 P.M. This was absolute proof that the trio of cameras on telephone pole #1 definitely lost power while under continuous video surveillance. This event made entirely no sense. The perpetrators who ripped the wiring out of the cameras at exactly 8:30 P.M. should have been obvious on this videotape.
From the perspective of an investigative scholar of the unknown and unexplained, there several important questions remain to be resolved. First of all, we need to know if the resolution of the surveillance video allowed the NIDS investigators to clearly determine the distinction between the PVC pipe and duct tape wound around telephone pole #1 in perfect condition versus the vandalized state. If a clear and marked transformation could be plainly seen, when was the destruction first confirmed on the surveillance videotape? Was it by the time-stamped dawn’s early light of the following morning? Or was it before darkness set in on that Sunday evening of July 19, 1998? Were these perpetrators invisible? Was the video surveillance of the destruction of this equipment like “watching” time-lapsed invisible vandals at work? Going frame by frame in viewing the time-stamped surveillance video, can it be determined how many frames (or how long it took) for this sabotage to take place?
If the surveillance video recorded the destruction of this equipment as “instantaneous,” that suggests a case for Tempus Interruptus or that the local space-time continuum was interrupted. Think in terms of that popular device in science fiction where the character is able to “suspend” time and move freely about that “frozen” moment making changes. This also may explain how lights, objects, and creatures/entities might be able to “blink” in and out of our reality at will. For illustration purposes, imagine that our own space-time existence is like a four-dimensional “movie” that can be “paused” allowing “actors, et cetera” to mysteriously enter or walk off the “set.” Maybe our question should not be “Where do UFOs and monsters go when they disappear in plain sight?” Maybe we should be asking “When do they go?”
By his own admission in UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies, and Realities, John Alexander was one of the first scientists to pull a watch at the Skinwalker Ranch. In Chapter 14: Considerations, Speculation, and Puzzles Addressed, he confirms and addresses this baffling act of vandalism.
“As all cameras were recorded with date and time stamps, the exact time of the damage was known. The extent of the damage was significant,” he writes, before particularizing that the “wires leading to camera one were affixed to the pole by a large amount of duct tape (probably about half a roll). That duct tape was totally missing. Anyone who has worked with such tape can attest to how hard it is to remove that material.
Further, near the ground, the wires had been protected from animals by being encased in PVC tubing and held to the pole via U-clamps. The PVC had been pulled loose from the pole and the U-clamps were again missing.” John Alexander adds significant details that were not previously reported. He describes the cameras as “strategically placed on the ranch taking time-lapse photography 24/7. Each camera snapped a frame every second and a third, day and night.” Referring to the segment of the wire that had been cut and was missing, Alexander states that “tests on the remaining segments of wire suggested that a rusty instrument had made the cuts.” What sort of demented individual carries a corroded knife? Why might this be important? “Coincidentally,” Alexander informs us, “the cattle just happened to have been grazing right around the camera one pole at that same moment. They did not move in any excessive or excited manner.”
This lack of nervousness by the cattle might be noteworthy. Terry and Gwen Sherman once watched as something unseen to them under the noon sun terrorized a single cow before it plowed through the herd and parted those cattle like the Red Sea. There were also reports of invisible creatures that could roar ferociously and splash wildly in a stream. On the opposite end of the weirdness spectrum, there were also several encounters with various visible but unusual animals that proved impervious to gunfire and that could disappear without a trace in mid-stride.
John B. Alexander concludes: “Considering the amount of physical damage that occurred, for the entire event to have happened in a little over a second (or between video frames) is simply out of the question.” Why would this learned gentleman (who was probably privy to the viewing and analysis of the original time-stamped time-lapse video photographs) even suggest such a thing? This violent act of vandalism to the surveillance cameras brings to mind the inexplicable set of circumstances that involved the horrific mutilation of a newborn calf on this same Utah acreage.
The gruesome crime happened one sunny morning just a stone’s throw and heartbeat away from Terry Sherman as he tagged new arrivals to the herd. We agree with John Alexander’s assessment that “the notion that some team of people raced across an open field and was able to conduct this extensive amount of surgery in a short time is highly improbable.” Both events involved some level of intricacy and difficulty. Both events were completed undetected in plain sight. Both events seemed to be accomplished in an impossibly short time or in that temporal space between tick and tock. Did NIDS capture video evidence of Tempus Interruptus?
SOURCE MATERIALS
UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies, and Realities by John B. Alexander Ph.D.; hardcover; 336 pages; Thomas Dunne Books; First Edition (February 15, 2011) ISBN: 0312648340
Hunt for the Skinwalker: Science Confronts the Unexplained at a Remote Ranch in Utah by Colm A. Kelleher Ph.D. and George Knapp; paperback; 320 pages; Paraview Pocket Books (December 6, 2005) ISBN: 1416505210

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[Carol Nistri]

What has NIDS learned from this,that you cant be obvious about setting up survellience equipment. Imagine,this skinwalker was probably munching on an apple watching them set up this equipment. Interesting that the second camera could only see the time of 8:30 when the cameras quit working.Science needs something extra when it comes to survillence.

[Carol Nistri]

Ok,the Skinwalker ranch book will be on its way as of tomorrow.Taps foot,sorry England still waiting for the book that was sent to ARIZONA!

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

What has NIDS learned from this,that you cant be obvious about setting up survellience equipment. Imagine,this skinwalker was probably munching on an apple watching them set up this equipment. Interesting that the second camera could only see the time of 8:30 when the cameras quit working.Science needs something extra when it comes to survillence.

I can't say that piece was an amazing read ....since Alexander already said basically the same things in his book. Goerman merely repeated the story. And I think this was also mentioned in the Skinwalker book.
Based on what they are telling us it seems like the only answer is some kind of time interruptus but... Why bother to rip it out the whole thing and not just disable or break the cameras? And why would an alleged 'skinwalker' creature even care if it was being filmed? Or it could have simply avoided that spot on the ranch for a few days until they removed the camera. And if it can stop time then why not just do that while moving past any cameras.? It doesn't make any sense to me.

[Carol Nistri]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

I can't say that piece was an amazing read ....since Alexander already said basically the same things in his book. Goerman merely repeated the story. And I think this was also mentioned in the Skinwalker book.
Based on what they are telling us it seems like the only answer is some kind of time interruptus but... Why bother to rip it out the wholw thing and not just disable or break the cameras? And why would an alleged 'skinwalker' creature even care if it was being filmed? Or it could have simply avoided that spot on the ranch for a few days until they removed the camera. And if it can stop time then why not just do that while moving past any cameras.? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Its seems to me,and of course I cant know but it does seem to me that this thing,this entity is flaunting the fact that he can do it at all,hmm,that means its got an ego..goes into Walter Mitty mode..

[Carol Nistri]

Im finding the last chapter the best chapter,Its called Military and to me anyway its the best of all.