Phil Corso

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Darrell

I already did better than that. I just gave you a personal account of it happening. I WAS THERE WHEN THE ORDERS WERE GIVEN. The "or else" part was given in general terms which all understood. No one knows what our guards were told. They were "debriefed" such that they hardly even spoke in the year or more that I was there afterward; and they used to be very chatty individuals.

As to documented cases where threats were made, I recall hearing accounts like that for some of the witnesses on various UFO FILES shows; but I don't remember which programs or who it pertained to. I'm rather confident that everyone that worked for the government was at minimum cited articles 18 and 19 of the espionage act. And at his level, I'm rather confident that the understanding went far deeper than that.

Again I was referring to public whistle blowers..not guards where you were. Many soldiers and others have been told to keep quiet..thats expected at military bases but is not what we are talking about.
Have any public ufo insiders ever had their familes threatened after they have gone public. I don't know of any.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Funny that you mention the former astronauts. It is my understanding that many have since died under somewhat suspicious or mysterious circumstances. Could be just coincidence ...

No ..it must be a conspiracy.

[Carol Nistri]

The fact is that soo many men,military men have come forward that the idea of them being punished and imprisoned would only give credence to the claim,Instead the waters have been muddied to the point that weve got to bottom fish with our bare hands.Stories such as Rendlesham and Hill even the Cash case are going to be trashed big time.The idea is so that the believer wont know which is true and which has been proven false,oh yes we do know which are true.

[starman2003]

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

The fact is that soo many men,military men have come forward that the idea of them being punished and imprisoned would only give credence to the claim,

Sure one could argue that cracking down on whistleblowers would only strengthen their claims. Still, lack of serious consequences in most cases is fishy, and consistent with what I suggested earlier--at least some could be mucking up the field under government direction.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

The fact is that soo many men,military men have come forward that the idea of them being punished and imprisoned would only give credence to the claim,Instead the waters have been muddied to the point that weve got to bottom fish with our bare hands.Stories such as Rendlesham and Hill even the Cash case are going to be trashed big time.The idea is so that the believer wont know which is true and which has been proven false,oh yes we do know which are true.

That's my point..none of these insiders have been threatened (or their families) from what i have read so why don't others come forward with some actual evidence to back up the anecdotal claims?

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by starman2003

Still, lack of serious consequences in most cases is fishy, and consistent with what I suggested earlier--at least some could be mucking up the field under government direction.

And I think it's possible Corso is one.

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Again I was referring to public whistle blowers..not guards where you were. Many soldiers and others have been told to keep quiet..thats expected at military bases but is not what we are talking about.
Have any public ufo insiders ever had their familes threatened after they have gone public. I don't know of any.

Are you feeling okay? Why would the government threaten whislteblowers AFTER they blew the whistle on ETs and their spacecraft? The only thing to do then is carry out threats already given and/or attempt to discredit the source by destroying all records about the person that might be used for story confirmation (sound familiar?) And what's the point of killing an old man like Corso?

In the case of Corso, because the egos of scientists are so large, many the scientists involved on research projects he claimed to aid via Roswell crash hardware have rushed to pretty much perceptively discredit his story concerning technology advancement. They did it all without any guidance injected, doncha know. Yet isn't it interesting that technology in those specific fields advanced at super pace, while other technologies although somewhat related advanced at a much slower pace (i.e. batteries, propulsion, etc)? I assume that the government considers the case closed on Corso because of this. And as long as most of the sheep people go along with the act, the case will remain closed.

[dr wu23]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Are you feeling okay? Why would the government threaten whislteblowers AFTER they blew the whistle on ETs and their spacecraft? The only thing to do then is carry out threats already given and/or attempt to discredit the source by destroying all records about the person that might be used for story confirmation (sound familiar?) And what's the point of killing an old man like Corso?

In the case of Corso, because the egos of scientists are so large, many the scientists involved on research projects he claimed to aid via Roswell crash hardware have rushed to pretty much perceptively discredit his story concerning technology advancement. They did it all without any guidance injected, doncha know. Yet isn't it interesting that technology in those specific fields advanced at super pace, while other technologies although somewhat related advanced at a much slower pace (i.e. batteries, propulsion, etc)? I assume that the government considers the case closed on Corso because of this. And as long as most of the sheep people go along with the act, the case will remain closed.

You just made my case so what's the problem? Are you okay?
That was my pioint that none of these' insiders' have been threatened after the fact so why doesn't someone come forward to back up Corso?...simple question.
Everything else about non whistle blowers is irrelevant since we don't know who or what they have to say.

btw you sound like a conspiracy theorist lately...just saying.

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

You just made my case so what's the problem? Are you okay?
That was my pioint that none of these' insiders' have been threatened after the fact so why doesn't someone come forward to back up Corso?...simple question.
Everything else about non whistle blowers is irrelevant since we don't know who or what they have to say.

btw you sound like a conspiracy theorist lately...just saying.

Let me put it this way: I wouldn't. I suggest as an observation that you have probably never been muzzled by a government authority, complete with threats. When one has been so warned, this transitions from philosophic chit chat into real world concerns. I can only wonder how a person with your intelligence can fail to take this fact into account. Perhaps you are the bravest person on the planet? Personally, the CIA scares the bejesus out of me! When they tell me that I didn't see anything, I only ask: "see what?"

And, if we are into childish labeling of one another yet again, you sir seem a very NON-NEUTRAL skeptic to me. I don't even know for sure what a "conspiracy theorist" is supposed to believe. What I do know is I believe little and let what evidence seems credible do my talking for me. I think the government has supplied ample evidence to prevent us from intelligently considering what it says to be credible -- except maybe in case of an emergency. If that alone makes me a conspiracy theorist in your eyes, then so be it. I don't trust our government. It is not the government I studied about growing up as an American. Even many of the people have changed for the worse.

[Carol Nistri]

I think whoever is behind the governments cover up has seen that they dont have to say a thing,not one word.The public will take these sightings and either rearrange the wording to their liking or disregard the sighting alltogether.I wonder if theres even two people charged with disinformation that agree on anything whatsoever.