A real alien whistleblower..

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by dejarma

why do you find it plausible?

Just my spontaneous intuition, reading Carol's post, dej: I wouldn't bet your life on it's actual veracity.

Which leads to my question. Are you interested in finding out if this story is true or false? Or simply dismiss it...

[Carol Nistri]

Originally Posted by orangekea

Thanks Carol for adding June's story. I find it quite plausible.


orangekea

Your welcome Orange..

[starman2003]

Originally Posted by Darrell

Perhaps you have no experience inside classified areas?

Well, I assume there must be a difference between classified and above top secret.

[dejarma]

Originally Posted by orangekea

Just my spontaneous intuition, reading Carol's post, dej: I wouldn't bet your life on it's actual veracity.

Which leads to my question. Are you interested in finding out if this story is true or false? Or simply dismiss it...

I'm not 'simply' dismissing it, as you put it! I've looked at the data available (as you have I take it) & have no reason to think there's anything valid in her claim; taking the time to explain why.....
I asked you a valid question in order to spark a discussion but you haven't answered it-- you haven't put forward any valid points suggesting why you feel it's 'possibly' she could be legit>>> this is what I mean by 'adult discussion'! you've 2 posts in this thread> 1, thanking Carol for posting the info &> 2 suggesting i'm simply dismissing it!!!! So, do you want to discuss this claim or not?.... either way suits me

Peace.

dej...

[dr wu23]

Someone had to type up the reports and documents involved from the investigation by the military and/or scientists unless they kept it very limited and the officers themselves did it... which is possible...my Dad was pulled out of the infantry and asked to do clerk/typist work in WW2 when he was overseas because they needed someone. So it could have been a man that did the actual typing. But there is no reason why this woman is lying about doing typing work that involved this case but I still have a hard time thinking they would share any real alien debris with a typist/clerk no matter what her status was.

[Carol Nistri]

Maybe at the time she was given that material that material was taken seriously,maybe it was seen as odd but nothing more.

[orangekea]

Here's another link, dealing with the same report as OP, from Majestic Documents:

June Craine Transcript

To read this download, scroll down linked page.


orangekea

[orangekea]

Originally Posted by Carol Nistri

Maybe at the time she was given that material that material was taken seriously,maybe it was seen as odd but nothing more.

I'm going through a support link in my Reply # 37 , Carol, and June Crain's interview includes her security clearance, which was initially a top secret clearance, changed later into a higher 'Q' clearance which tallies with what we nowadays call Above Top Secret.

Meaning that if she spoke the truth, she was cleared to see the debris.

The linked interview states that she presented documents of her employment that withstood comparison with contemporary docs at the National Archives: it appears Mrs. Crain at least worked where she says she worked.

During her work times at Wright Patterson, there were, to her memory, at least 3 crashes (like Roswell). One occasion involved the recovered corpses of two greenish-blue men. And as OP includes, she handled the famous 'tinfoil' lnked to crashed alien craft.

Other interesting points made in the interview is that the aliens, or more accurately: public knowledge of these beings, would constitute a threat to the Christian religion and the shape/form of human government. June Crain's had the opportunity to listen in to collegues, military and engineers, and in particular an UFO-thinktank, who feared social upheaval over alien life.

Predictably her position is that the US government possesses certain knowledge of aliens, and holds recovered flying saucers and alien physical remains. Naturally she insists that the denial of the Roswell incident, plus the aliens themselves, as well as the balloon story/crash dummies constitute a deception of Americans. The hidden truth, she says, is that while publicly denying aliens, intensive research was done into the saucers, alien visitors, by both American and secretly imported German scientists.

All of the above was completed around 1997, in sudden anger over the perceived official denial & hypocrisy regarding the Roswell crash, as she was about to lose her battle with cancer at the age of 72, making her final words akin to a dying declaration. June Crain has confirmed her interview by affidavit.


orangekea

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by starman2003

Well, I assume there must be a difference between classified and above top secret.

The term 'classified" refers to all degrees of security restricted access. Thus confidential, secret, secret special handling, top secret and any alleged classifications above top secret would all be generically termed as classified information.

Therefore, if anyone in the room had on his accessable person anything of a classified nature, then everyone else in that room would need have a security clearance equal to or above that of the item in question. So for the story given by the lady in question, she would most likely have had a security clearance equal to that of her supervisor and certainly high enough to be in the room in which there was present said classified hardware.

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by dr wu23

Someone had to type up the reports and documents involved from the investigation by the military and/or scientists unless they kept it very limited and the officers themselves did it... which is possible...my Dad was pulled out of the infantry and asked to do clerk/typist work in WW2 when he was overseas because they needed someone. So it could have been a man that did the actual typing. But there is no reason why this woman is lying about doing typing work that involved this case but I still have a hard time thinking they would share any real alien debris with a typist/clerk no matter what her status was.

and you really think that this tidbit of information even qualifies to trump my experience claims concering security measures where I have worked nearly my entire career in weapons development from tactical to strategic systems and worked with various military installations and technical personnel across the country? wu, you are incredulous!