Nazi UFO Obtained By Americans 1945

[kool1]

Nazis recover UFO from crash then in 1945 the Americans obtain the UFO and begin reverse engineering project. FREE book can be read on internet at
http://www.1333-1.com

[dr wu23]

Yes..lots of stories about the nazis......
http://naziufomythos.greyfalcon.us/index.html
http://greyfalcon.us/the%20Nazis%20d...ave%20UFOs.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_UFOs

[jk1961]

welcome kool/1 i would like to join in this topic but unfortunatly i wont be simply because of 1 word and past family history

[starman2003]

Originally Posted by kool1

Nazis recover UFO from crash then in 1945 the Americans obtain the UFO and begin reverse engineering project. FREE book can be read on internet at

I don't buy this. For one thing alleged pre '47 crashes aren't credible.

[kool1]

I replied to a email and thought everyone might like to hear the answer.

They thought it was a tele-collapser instead of teleportation. This information is found in two part: pages 4 - 6, and 82 - 83.

The following is from pages 4 - 6
[Dobbs] had been involved in an investigation into a death that occurred during a top secret UFO project conducted by the military at a facility in Grand Forks, North Dakota. It was in 1985. There were three officers in the room. One from the Army National Guard and two from the Air Force. Akland, Tompson(?), and Erickson. There was a former Nazi scientist called Otto Swartz. An engineering specialist was part of the team. [Mark Musick contacted me by telephone on behalf of Mogens Kiehn, and made what I perceived as a threat in violation of federal law. Then, only after that threat, Mogens Kiehn contacted me on May 19, 2012, denied any nvolvement in this project, and referenced what he claimed were several incorrect statements, and demanded, as did Mark Musick, that I remove the book from the internet].

There was an administrator whose name I can’t recall. There were three physicists. Dr. Schwalm, Dr. Larson, and Emory Taylor. [Correction, Taylor is an amateur astronomer, not a physicist.]

And there were four security officers in the room. During the incident two of the security officers were at the door and two near a piece of equipment.
A special operations unit of [Nazi Germany’s] Luftwaffe had removed [this equipment] from a crashed Heinkel bomber in April 1940. The Heinkel and another unidentified craft had crashed into each other and gone down. [This piece of equipment was from the unidentified craft.]

Dr. Larson was briefing the officers on recent work that had been done trying to figure out what this equipment was and what it did. In 43 years with different teams working on it, little to no progress had been made.
Dr. Schwalm and Taylor were working ideas and numbers on a blackboard. They weren’t really part of the briefing. Taylor had an idea and walked up to the back side of the equipment and done something. Technical stuff I wouldn’t have understood, and my friend probably didn’t understand so he just said Taylor did something. That’s when it happened.

The room filled with a strange light and a weird whispering sound. The two security officers tried to run away from the equipment but couldn‘t. They were screaming “Help� but their voices couldn‘t be heard. Taylor stood up behind the equipment and just then one of the security guards just vanished. The other one continued attempting to get away from the equipment. Taylor undid whatever it was he had done and the whispering sound and light went off. The guard fell to the floor exhausted. The other guard was never seen or heard from again. He just vanished.

The following is from pages 82 - 83.
But where was his body? No blood. No guts. Nothing. Where did he go?
Later in life he started thinking the guard was sucked into another dimension. But then the machine wouldn’t have been a motor but instead was a teleportation device. But this wouldn’t really explain why they couldn’t run away. Or why their voices couldn’t be heard. He just couldn’t resolve the issue.

It was only after I read Taylor’s latest physics paper that I realized the machine must have been some kind of teleportation motor for an entire spaceship. It somehow operates by collapsing space-time itself. The spaceship doesn’t travel to “somewhere� because it draws that “somewhere� to it by collapsing space-time. In a zero dimension no time elapses. This means you can travel hundreds of trillions of miles without time elapsing. You could travel from one end of the universe to the other in zero seconds.
I have no proof of this mind you. But it does fit the bill. I hired a physicist to review Taylor’s paper. The one called “No Relativistic Mass Increase Required.“ He couldn’t find a flaw in it. Now, I didn’t say anything to him about my idea of the teleportation motor. And I didn’t say anything to him about my friend or the secret UFO project. I let him review the paper and then drew my own conclusion.

What’s important here is that if there is a relativistic mass increase then you can not accelerate a mass to or beyond the speed of light. Because to do so the mass would increase to an infinite amount and require an infinite force. [Actually, this applies to an externally applied force.]

But if there is no relativistic mass increase then of course it is possible to travel at and even beyond the speed of light. But if you have a teleportation motor for collapsing space-time then I would guess you don’t have to worry about any mass increase even if there were such an increase. I never could come up with the correct name for this motor.

Teleportation isn’t correct. I guess it should be called something like the “tele-collapser.� It teleports the other place to you by collapsing spacetime.

[ChrisPerridas]

"In a zero dimension no time elapses. This means you can travel hundreds of trillions of miles without time elapsing.".

This is an interesting concept, but there seems to be an issue. If there is a zero dimension, then that means the distance (i.e. dimension) is also zero. This means one can go, well, nowhere.

Perhaps what is intended is that the "zero dimension" is very, very, very small. For instance, this is part of the idea of string theory, very very small dimensions with vibrating strings. The difficulty becomes, as the dimensions become extremely small, the amount of energy to uncover and manipulate anything within that space is enormously large.

I suppose one way of discussing this, is with the Big Bang's beginning (or very, very close to it) wherein the dimension was very very small, it contained all the current mass and energy of this universe. Wow.

So, no zero dimension, and no easy way to manipulate a micro-dimension, because one may not have enough energy to traverse through it.

There are other subtle means to manipulate things, for instance "information" is not bound to routine mass and energy equations, at least not that we can easily determine. Therefore, a theoretical transporter much as Roddenberry described it may be possible. But the original has to be destroyed to create the new duplicate at a distance. Labs are doing this with Cesium atoms now. But I don't think this is what the author has in mind.

It has been many moons since I worked a quantum equation, and was not too good at it in 1981. I got a B and only with great mercy by the professor. Thus I dropped out of the program and moved on to other things. It was only going to get harder. But I recall the mathematics was pretty unforgiving when it came to things like this, or sadly, Star Trek stuff.

[Carol Nistri]

sounds a tad bizzare to me,but thats just me.

[FROGLIPZ]

Originally Posted by ChrisPerridas

"In a zero dimension no time elapses. This means you can travel hundreds of trillions of miles without time elapsing.".

This is an interesting concept, but there seems to be an issue. If there is a zero dimension, then that means the distance (i.e. dimension) is also zero. This means one can go, well, nowhere.

Perhaps what is intended is that the "zero dimension" is very, very, very small. For instance, this is part of the idea of string theory, very very small dimensions with vibrating strings. The difficulty becomes, as the dimensions become extremely small, the amount of energy to uncover and manipulate anything within that space is enormously large.

I suppose one way of discussing this, is with the Big Bang's beginning (or very, very close to it) wherein the dimension was very very small, it contained all the current mass and energy of this universe. Wow.

So, no zero dimension, and no easy way to manipulate a micro-dimension, because one may not have enough energy to traverse through it.

There are other subtle means to manipulate things, for instance "information" is not bound to routine mass and energy equations, at least not that we can easily determine. Therefore, a theoretical transporter much as Roddenberry described it may be possible. But the original has to be destroyed to create the new duplicate at a distance. Labs are doing this with Cesium atoms now. But I don't think this is what the author has in mind.

It has been many moons since I worked a quantum equation, and was not too good at it in 1981. I got a B and only with great mercy by the professor. Thus I dropped out of the program and moved on to other things. It was only going to get harder. But I recall the mathematics was pretty unforgiving when it came to things like this, or sadly, Star Trek stuff.

Sorry but couldn't help but notice you said very very, very very often lol

[ChrisPerridas]

I guess I carried away and became very, very, very emphatic.

[kool1]

Oh my god! Someone picked up on it …. the it being the Secret Theory part of the so-called Secret Theory Project.

Of course IF ….. did you hear me say IF….. UFOs are alien technology, and IF ….. there I again said IF ….. the American actually came into possession of UFO parts and started a reverse engineering project, and IF ….. again I said IF ….. Some progress was made, then we should expect new knowledge that we did not already have.

Part of that new knowledge is called The Zero Dimensional Hypothesis (aka 0D Theory).

Chris Perridas ….. you said the following:
“This is an interesting concept, but there seems to be an issue. If there is a zero dimension, then that means the distance (i.e. dimension) is also zero. This means one can go, well, nowhere.�

You ALMOST cought on to it. You missed it just slightly. You are a 3D observer suffering from the 3D prejudice, which is perfectly natural. In order to understand the Zero Dimensional Hypothesis (aka 0D Theory), you have to let go of your 3D prejudice. Then you will understand that in zero dimension there is only one place and everything (you, me, the stars, etc) is at that one place.

How is it we 3D creatures mistake that one place as having different locations (such as the location of the Earth and the location of the Moon)?
Answer: our 3D universe is an energy disturbance part of zero dimensional space (0D space). Note that I said “part of�. I did not say in or on. I said “part of� 0D space.

I wrote out a very simple explanation of Zero Dimensional Hypothesis (aka 0D Theory) for the general public. Everyone will be able to understand it. So even if you are not scientifically inclined you should read it. That means you too Froglipz!

You see, I am Emory Taylor. I am the one accused of turning on the UFO equipment and causing the death of the security guard. I am also the one accused of being involved in the cover up of the Secret Theory Project, and I am the one who was assigned to dissimilating the Secret Theory so no one would know it came from a secret UFO project. So why would I now be exposing the truth?

Well ………. my saying it is the truth and anyone actually proving I am telling the truth that it was a secret UFO project are two completely different things. Before going into that part of it, let’s first resolve how everything is in just one place but appears to be in different place.

You can read the Zero Dimensional Hypothesis (aka 0D Theory) by going to these links ….. you too Froglipz
http://www.1333-1.com/AreaMJ12/0DTheory1.html
http://www.1333-1.com/AreaMJ12/0DThe...eoryPart2.html
http://www.1333-1.com/AreaMJ12/0DThe...eoryPart3.html
http://www.1333-1.com/AreaMJ12/DarkStuff/DarkStuff.html